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Mv Augusta Brutale

Discussion in 'Other Bikes' started by HyperMac, Sep 15, 2021.

  1. I'd recommend a 4 cylinder MV over the 3. Go on the MV forum and have a read. There are quite a few issues that happen time and again. Rear brake being one they all seem to suffer from with no real solution. Dropped valves is another, usually just after having a valve service. Sprag clutch is a issue on older 3 cylinders too. Spares situation isn't that good either.
    The 4 cylinder platform is reliable in comparison.
     
  2. My dad had a KTM 790 for a while and loved it, it felt to upright and supermotoish to me when I Rode it.
    I traded my 800 brutale in for a street triple 765 RS in 2018 and still have it. Its smooth, comfy, too fast, lovely dash etc it does everything superbly, but it hasn't got a MV badge. I could fancy a new streetfighter v2 but it's going to be my bike plus 10k. It's a no brainer, I'll keep what I've got.
     
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  3. I've just started looking through the forum now. There seems to be many 4 cyl variants, and then suddenly it's pushing 210hp on the new ones. The triple is the sweet spot for me, 2013 or so is about the right level of power and it's already taken the huge depreciation hit. Doesn't sounds like a stress free experience, though.
     
  4. Yeah the 790 and 890 both seem really fun, and best value for the money, but very upright and a little boring looking. The Street RS is a good shout, that seems to have the full set of electronics and a nice dash. My track bike is a Daytona so part of me is looking for something different.
     
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  5. I can only speak from my experience and my Brutale was pretty faultless, had I had the confidence in my local MV dealer to “have my back” then I’d probably still own one (of some variation or another). That 800 triple is a peach of an engine though and the bikes are much quicker than the stats suggest, either that or the bike just encourages you to ride it that much quicker than you would dare on anything else?

    I loved my MV’s and all realities of life aside if I had the room, the money and wanted a 2nd/3rd/4th…10th bike I wouldn’t hesitate in getting another but I’d probably go for a Rivale or another Stradale as the stance and riding position is even more mental, no good for every day riding but it would be in my fantasy garage :joy:
     
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  6. I have a 2008 F4. Those engines are well sorted and quite reliable. Electrics are not great. The black sleeving they use on their harnesses seems to disintegrate at the 8 year mark. Mine is still analogue, so no ABS, or fly by wire throttle, no exhaust valve, quick shifter etc. If you are looking at later bikes the problems quickly accumulate. By 2013 they also used plastic fuel tanks, at least on some of the bikes and they don't like ethanol at all.
    I love my MV and I'd have a Brutale 750 or 910 any day but I wouldn't touch the later bikes. The current owners appear to be happy to push out model after model with the same engine and brakes without fixing any of the well known issues. Warranty claims are being honoured and some bikes are on their 2nd or even 3rd engine but the underlying issues don't get addressed.
    To be fair, some of them seem fairly trouble free. It's the luck of the draw.
     
  7. I better not ride one then.

    I pretend to be sensible but am extremely likely to do something stupid.
     
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  8. I have no experience of the 3 cylinder MVs but I have a 2007 910S and love it. It's just had a 22k mile service which isn't cheap but I went in with my eyes open. I find it's a great bike for general play and it'll go loony when necessary. It's reasonably comfortable for longish rides but fuel consumption isn't great. Watch out for rear hub bearings and hair trigger throttle.
     
  9. 9D6D41C3-9ABA-4A38-A052-B55BE34A8024.jpeg Just to add some balance….. I swapped my Panigale V2 for a F3 in the summer. The newer MV have 3 year warranty. My Panigale had 4 warranty claims in 1000 miles. I did my homework, you NEED a Black engine model Euro 4 bike whatever the model. They made a huge step in reliability and use ability and in general seem to be better as they are built with more backing from Russian investment rather than when MV were busy fighting with AMG.

    I’m not saying my bike will be perfect… I’m really not, I’m sure it may have issues but the warranty cover is important and the fact is I’ve done 2 trackdays and 1250 miles on it since July and it has not missed a beat. Just wanted to share my own PERSONAL opinion, a few on here also have and that’s great, but a few are sharing opinions of their mate Bob who knows a guy who met a bloke once etc etc.
     
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  10. I have an F4 750S and now have an uncontrollable urge to get an F3 800 onto the track........
     
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  11. 4 mv's here, 989r, 2x 910r, 1090rr
    All super nice bikes after fitting microtec ecu to them, before very bad fueling way to much advance on timing throttle was either on or off
    No experiance on the 3 cylinders
     
  12. I don’t know why but I think the F3 800 would be a blast on track. They have always looked sexy as hell.
     
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    I don’t want to derail the thread but it’s a lovely lovely track bike. My personal issue is that at 15st and 6ft I make it look like a micro machine, but it’s super easy to ride fast, even without a steering damper, with the Dave moss suspension settings it’s rideable, brakes are mint, backwards rotating crank can be felt at the point you hit the brakes and tip in as there doesn’t seem to be any ‘push’ to keep the bike stood up. On mine, around Donnington the blipper specifically didn’t miss a beat all day, not one time did it randomly ‘shove’ me like my Panigale did.

    the only issue I had was that I used Rosso Corsa tyres with tyre warmers at Donnington in 30 degree heat and by the end of the sessions the rear was getting too hot and starting to slide
     
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  14. Yep the F3 is hot...like very nearly 1098 good looking. Really good choice for a do it all bike too, take to the track but not a total nutcase on the street.

    I'd not done a track day for over 10 years and clearly forgot how to properly ride a bike. My 1098 was fine when i had it on track but I wasn't enjoying it, worrying about smashing it up every corner. So I've got this guy, who's going to gently guide me back to competence:
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    So if i get something else it doesn't go on track, can even put sensible tyres on it.

    I've also had a number of "oooh I shouldn't have fucking done that" incidents with the 1098. So something that is less encouraging of idiocy is welcome. Or at least with less hp if we're gonna be idiots.
     
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  15. As the elephant in the room has been mentioned (the Daytona) the F3 800 engine is like a 675 triumph engine on steroids, it’s just stronger but has a similar power curve (if that makes sense) where as the 675 MV engines were really really peaky with totally non existent midrange for a triple
     
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  16. Makes sense. Hopefully the Daytona can get me back to being consistent and quick, as right now I'm a mess on track.

    The 1098 is only being replaced by something with a different feel and character, especially if I can have fun without pushing 100+ mph everywhere. If I'm going to ride a big sport bike on the street then I'll just keep it.
     
  17. The MV’s all have a VERY similar chassis feel to the 748/848/1098 serious bikes though apart from being very very quick steering. It must be the steel trellis, it just has ‘that feel’ a bit like the Panigale’s all have a particular feel I think
     
  18. I'll first test ride the 890 and ST RS, and see how those feel, as there are local demo bikes.
     
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