Don't blame you, but it 'will' only make you more aware! That is why it was released, so I decided to. Wish I hadn't but glad I did
Sometimes it better not to. I don't want to watch people die. I'm cool with injuries and wounds after the fact but I don't want to watch it happen. You can't exactly un watch it if you don't like it.
I watched up to the 2 mins 45mark and then decided I definitely don't want to see it. I've got those gloves though, they're really good.
If you noticed the gloves you weren't paying attention - always watch the road ahead and be safe! :Wideyed:
I "knew" this guy through a bike group we both belonged too. I think the accusation of speed thrown at him is a little unfair. His mother said how fast he liked to ride but also made the point both car and bike people need to look out for each other. The car driver made a misjudgement too.
There was a recent fatal not far from where I live.....A very similar one, in fact. Two motorcycles and another vehicle involved .......not completely sure of the actual detail, but I'm guessing that having seen who I believe the two bikers were on other occassions on the same road; excess speed near a concealed junction (with warning signs) was the main cause. You can almost picture it without watching the one Matt has referred to........ I also think that riding with bike cameras encourages daft people to do daft things......it's like the camera is there to record showing off, therefore the intent to show off is always present.
I watched it up to two minutes but then I'd had enough of the blonde woman and turned it off. These things need to be short, not loose the audience as they take an age to get to the point...
You mean his mum. You'd had enough of his mum, who took the brave decsion to try and help bikers see how easy and quickly it can be over, and educate drivers that a bike can be travelling faster than you think so 'think bike' Well done you
I watched it and i was stunned that all the warning signs that the road and surrounding can give you were not taken in consideration by both the car driver & rider tbh. The car driver will sadly shoulder the majority burden of responsibility, but "Due Care & Attention" or the lack of it was I feel a huge factor here. Yes the riders speed will also count against him, but I wouldn't want to be the car driver. Who now has to live with the fact that they killed another human being. We all do daft things from time to time, but theres usually a time and a place. Having witnessed more than my fair share of Accidents throughout my short (40 years or so) lifetime, as I guess others have done. I'm slowly realising that the old wise tale of 'ride to the road/ weather conditions' is a very good term of phrase. For those who watch all or part of it, most will probably take note, but there will be others who don't even give it 2 min 45 sec's. MR C's comments earlier are very true, especially when its your time its your time.!. RIP David.
I watched it last night and as a result have been thinking about it, and my biking ability a lot today, can't seem to get it out of my mind, which is exactly what it was meant to do I suppose. The last split second is particularly upsetting. Is it that being a fellow biker makes it more poignant, if this was a car collision video I don't think it would have the same effect and in a small car the outcome would be no different.
I couldn't agree more. It's upsetting in it's simplicity. There's no gore or bloodshed to be seen, it makes you gasp because it's a situation anyone of us could end up in. It's played on my mind like no other film has, especially his last few words as he realises what's about to happen. After the collision when everything comes to a stop the camera is still recording even though the rider by that time is dead, it's very eerie. I hope for his sake he died instantly and felt no suffering. I can't imagine what his family have gone through and to be able to watch the last few moments must have been excruciating. People will point the finger of blame as always in these situations but it is of no consequence now. His family are very brave people for releasing the film, it's had an impact on me.
TBH This sort of thing scares the shit out of me. I'll not be watching it thanks. When I ride in a group, I'm consistently amazed at the risks people take and particularly how close they get to other vehicles (both following and on an overtake). I'm sure I'm often viewed as a Miss Daisy rider but if there's a risk on the road you generally have 2 choices (if you even notice it).....plough on and hope its all OK, or adjust your speed and/or position to take it into consideration. Who cares if you go a bit slower if you come out the other side....It only takes it to happen once. I'm amazed at peoples lack of awareness/stupidity/bravery (delete as appropriate) but it's not my job to haul them up on it and I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate it either. I just fear for some of my friends/acquaintances and their family's. For my part I have a wife and 2 children who I love very much. I let the kids stick their stickers on my knee sliders....it keeps me grounded when everyone's willy waving over a coffee P.S. The above isn't aimed at you @bradders
I always watch stuff like this to try and learn from it. I saw some comments online last night from someone who at least purported to be his mother. She was very matter of fact and gracious. I hope it was her and not some fucking crackpot. 10mph faster and he would have made it. My employer laid on a course for everyone a while ago. Defensive driving or suchlike. It featured the use of mobiles etc and aftermath of a number of accidents including motorcyclists and accidents where drivers had pulled out on motorcyclists. I was the only one who rode a bike and I was staggered at the attitude of my fellow employees towards these accidents. Many of them educated people and many of them, without a shred of compassion or thought, instantly blamed the motorcyclist for speeding, not being visible etc etc and assumed, for example, that an accident at 60 mph for the biker was no big issue to survive or that driving across the path of a motorcyclist at say 60mph was nothing for the motorcyclist to deal with. It was a real eye opener. I'm a shithouse riding in a group because if I see an empty junction or if for example there's a car somewhere approaching a turning and I see it, I have to slow down or at the very least gently brake to get the weight on the front in case I need to brake hard. The circumstances that worry me are blind corners / crests and the junctions I don't see. My mrs goes nuts at me because in a car I'm a nervous wreck pulling out at t junctions and so on. Not even she understands.
Perhaps a greater effect would be delivered if driver training had a slight shift from training you as an individual on a road to teaching you as one of the road using collective. Switching from decision making based on 'me' to decision making based on 'us'. I think humans are just inherently selfish shits.
This video goes to show how quickly a situation can go from normal to critical in a very short period of time.I too found this harrowing but deeply thought provoking and goes to prove the fragile balance between life and death.I would also like to appeal to the author of a post earlier in this thread to reconcider his comments as this video was not released as entertainment , her message and reasons for putting this out to the public are quite clear.
Just seen this on the news and watched the full video just now. Interesting thing is that David's mother (and my thoughts go out to her), actually presents a balanced view that we motorcyclists should watch our speed but also that car drivers should be more aware. This is not the way it was portrayed on the news - the views of the newscaster, the police etc was that this was the rider's fault entirely, even Brenda's interview was edited so that she seemed to lay the blame at David's feet. A touchy subject - I have both crashed heavily (my fault) and had a friend killed (not his fault) on motorcycles but it hasn't and won't stop me going out on my bike. As someone said above, I would rather die do something I love than in a home sitting my own piss.
