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Sepang 2015 - Dare I Watch??? There Will Be Spoilers In This Thread!

Discussion in 'Racing & Bike Sport' started by Air Duck, Oct 22, 2015.

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Sepang God =

Poll closed Oct 25, 2015.
  1. Marc the drifter

    2 vote(s)
    10.0%
  2. Whoregay the f*ckin bastard

    7 vote(s)
    35.0%
  3. Vale the Greatest

    10 vote(s)
    50.0%
  4. Dani the pussy

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Any of the peeps that voted themselves or their gran in the last two polls

    1 vote(s)
    5.0%
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  1. has this been confirmed/any quotes?

    once it has, surely that's it, nothing more to see here

    the spanish chimp got what was coming to him (and will do for the forseeable)
     
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  2. If that happens, I'll eat my full size Arai helmet :)
     
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  3. more sound byte bluster from the vr46 press/marketing team.
     
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  4. i kicked the car another day which cut me up.
    nearly fall off myself.
     
  5. Ooh now thats big.....
     
  6. When I needed the toilet, my missus decided she did too and ran to race me. I had the line and forced her to run wide, knocking the tea she'd left on the floor.

    Racing incident!
     
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  7. I'm interested to see how the Spanish public react to the incident should Rossi turn up.
    As every race is a home race for VR usually will he get mucho support and MM or Jorge get less or vice versa.

    Linn Jarvis is playing down the Rossi not coming thing saying that VR still has a job to do but a little bit of me wants it to happen. Not that he really cares I'm sure but it must belittle the Jorge championship win (which is on the cards) a little. I think he might well have had enough to take the title anyway so in that respect MM has done him no favours.
     
  8. Spillage in aisle 3.

    I saw the whole thing from the IP cams. No way you were going to make the door first.
     
  9. I agree. The appeal process as currently operated is totally unsatisfactory. It is designed to produce a quick result, not a fair one. Whatever a dispute is about, neither side has a reasonable opportunity to prepare a case and present it, and whoever is deciding it does not get a proper chance to reach a considered judgment.
     
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  10. [​IMG]
     
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  11. Less Steven Seagal and more Steve Buscemi?
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    Rossi's not exactly a handsome fella.
     
  12. Come on JORGE!!!!
     
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  13. Boo, hiss... Get out [emoji23]
     
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  14. I'm not saying that's right or wrong. But how long do you give them? An hour? A day? A week? Coming to a quick decision helps because everybody knows the situation. Can you imagine the situation today or tomorrow if we were still waiting for a decision?

    At this level of sport, there are enough cameras about to make an informed decision pretty quickly. Other sports make quick decisions (football red / yellow cards, offsides, goals..........Boxing disqualifications etc.) They may not be 100% perfect sometimes, but I can't think of a better system in most cases.

    Letting them prepare a case gets into the realms of he said / she said. The lawyers and PR people get involved. It would add nothing to the facts. Do we really want Motorcycle racing going down this route for every contentious issue? I don't myself.

    People on here have had 24 hours to look at things and it's still like Tom & Jerry with wildly differing opinions on the same incident. Time has given no clarity at all.
     
  15. I'm surprised that Rossi is saying that he might not turn up to Valencia. In 2012 Marc Marquez won the Moto2 race starting from the back of the grid on a damp track. So the championship isn't over yet ;)

    I think that Dani will win at Valencia. Vale will probably get up to 8th. I don't think that many of the lower riders will deliberately get in his way. The rest is probably down to Marquez and Lorenzo.
     
  16. Come on Rossi
    Knock em all down on your way round :D
     
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  17. Time would enable you to collect data such as braking data, throttle data, lean data etc... Maybe time to check with the tyre guys as to MM's bullshit "I was cooling my tyres" crap. 24 hours should suffice. Especially as you are unable to appeal the appeal verdict. Only one shot so take the time and get it right.
     
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  18. Yeah I saw that post before the race Ducbird, I reckon its all your'e fault!
     
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  19. In every sport there are certain types of decisions which have to be made almost instantly during the course of the match/race/game by an umpire/referee/steward. Those decisions affect only the event in progress at the time.

    Then there is another type of decision, of a disciplinary character, made after the event and affecting subsequent events or possibly a competitor's career. These decisions are subject to appeal, or should be. This week's Rossi thing is one of the latter type. The need for rapidity and finality should be balanced against the requirement for fairness. In football, rugby, cricket, etc appeal processes exist which take a few days - finality is reached in good time before the next match. They are not perfect, but at least they are defensible. The heat of the moment is allowed to cool. The FIM system as it currently exists ("30 minutes" etc) seems to me unreasonably rapid and too prone to unfairness.

    As for lawyers getting involved, MotoGP is a professional multi-million pound sport with major international companies involved. These are not club races for amateurs. Judgments may have expensive consequences one way or another. Lawyers have to be involved anyway - the question is whether they are to have a chance to do their work properly.
     
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