Smoking

You would never dream of imposing your view ( or drug dependency ) on others but are perfectly prepared to let others impose there's on you ,,, well that's you .

 

After the smoking ban pubs just smelled of arse and feet. I quit drinking as well soon afterwards. Now pubs smell of garlic bread and baby wipes.

They should have allowed pipe smoking to continue. That would have solved both problems.

 

Ooooh my sides are aching...
Honestly man...you don't read anything do ya?...you just respond negatively to anything anyone else posts...no rhyme,reason,or attempt at comprehension or understanding,just the constant repetition of insult,name calling,stereotyping,generalisation,accusation.
...*yawn*...It was entertaining for a while,but your complete refusal/inability to engage in proper debate is boring now.
So,sadly,it's the ignore button for you
Sorry

 

So presumably is my inability to accept another's " rite " to blow their vile drug in my face .

 

Just how much harm do you reckon that the occasional passive whiff of burning leaves does to your health then ?
More or less than the effects of industrial pollution, transport pollution, deforestation etc that is suffocating the planet ?
What do you think of bonfire night ?

I agree that smokers should consider the welfare of others ... but lets keep things in proportion.
And lets not be fascist about it.

 

Yes, the EU single market is a wonderful thing isn't it.

 

Although, only when you can by-pass it.

 

Made no difference. Tax was paid on the tabacco in Belgium which at the time was the cheapest in Europe otherwise I'd have bought it somewhere else. It was vastly less extortionate than UK tax. Without UK membership of the single market the tobacco could be bought at the same price from duty free lounges.
Though that would have made no difference either in my case as my tobacco used to come into the UK on a fishing trawler.

 

Nose-pokers are Fascist by nature,asking them to consider anyone but themselves is a waste of time.
It's hard not to think back to a better time when they were the minority and normal adults derided them.
Sadly,like climate change and other scams,this type of human weasel now has the ear of the media,so common sense and liberty have gone out of the window.

 

When I went to Australia in 2000 they were ahead of us on smoking in public places. You couldn't light up in Government or civic spaces but outside in restaurants and cafes and privately run businesses it was down to the owners discretion.
You'd see a sign in one establishment proclaiming "We are smoke free". And across the road there'd be a competitor with a sign saying "We welcome smokers". And guess what, both places were full of customers and everyone was happy.
I expect its all changed there too now though. The health Gestapo are everywhere.

If I'm still alive at 80 I'm going to start smoking a pipe just to piss everyone off.

 

Im going for a fag.

 

The non fascist approach was tried , the drug addict was given their chance / opportunity to show some consideration / respect but despite plenty of noise that they would they did not so responsibility was taken from them by government ( fascist ? ) and laws were put in place , thankfully . An example of freedom , at my place of work the entrance to the locker room / changing area is accessed throo a narrow corridored area , at the door of which there are always 3or 4 drug addicts puffing away ( illegally ) because they are too lazy / unfit / inconsiderate to walk the 100 yards to the designated drug taking area , to pass them unless one wants a chest full of toxic smoke one has to hold ones breath , presumably they have me and anyone else who wants into the locker rooms on " ignore " , sometimes I wish I had an " exterminate " button .

 

I always thought fags were dirty things to be avoided like the plague -








- but then, I did go to an all boys school.

 

It certainly has changed in Australia - a lot! How Australia is stubbing out smoking - BBC News
The only place I have seen recently where the libertarian attitude prevails and allows some establishments to permit smoking is Germany (not all German states, but certainly in Cologne last time I was there).

Good idea about the pipe. Have you seen that Eva Green as Miss Peregrine?

 

I’m enjoying this thread as I’m one of the many people in the UK who were made redundant from a good career in the Tobacco industry a few years ago.

The argument about what smokers cost the UK and what they contribute has raged for years, the facts can be manipulated to successfully justify both sides of the argument.

The Tax situation around Europe and the rest of the world is a minefield, and can be exploited by smokers, the Tobacco companies, and even local governments.
I was involved in a couple of deals to set up local manufacturing in countries where the import duty alone on a pack of 20 was far more than local brands cost. Although importing a pack in it’s constituent components was tax free, as guess what? The packing plants were owned, or heavily invested in, by members of the government.

The amounts of money involved, the ability to manipulate it, and it’s controversial nature, means the industry sometimes attracts people and organisations that shall we say might not be ‘strictly truthful’ about everything.

My role was in procurement, and took me all over the world, it was a great life until it all came crashing down around us.
It still comes back to haunt me though, on several occasions my CV has been openly rejected by potential employers because I worked in the Tobacco industry, and even now members of my extended family, and friends of friends, will not talk to me.

I’m a huge hypocrite however, having never smoked more than the occasional Cigar in my life.

Nasher

 

And in the nineteenth century as well.

 

Opinions are like arse holes, everybody has one... It doesn't have to be shared in Public though, I personally couldn't give a flying F**K about your clear hatred for everyone who may enjoy indulging in Nicotine but it's a long time since I've come across someone quite as rude and annoying as yourself on the subject.

I got bored of reading your posts half way through this thread which otherwise has been quite an entertaining thread to read through. Your posts just made me :Yawn: though.

And for the record... I am a smoker, I enjoy it and I am always considerate to those around me who may not be.

 

I don't smoke but on a rare occasion I have been known to smoke a celebratory cigar.

I've never understood why perfectly sane people would effectively roll 5 or 10 pound notes, put them in their mouth and set them alight or why they would even take showers, use deodorent, aftershave, perfume, toothpaste and then within seconds smell like an old toxic ashtray

I've also never understood the anti smoking nazi's. You know the type, they want smokers to go outside to smoke but when the summer comes, they want to smokers gone all together so the nazi's can enjoy the gardens.

My dad smokes, he's 78 and learnt to smoke in the navy in the 50's and 60's. His ceilings are yellow and when you leave his bungalow all your clothes stink of fags. I don't take the grandkids round there but instead will collect him with them and go out for a coffee or beer/meal

thankfully it is becoming less of an issue as less people smoke but I do get a bit pissed when smokers seem to be attacked or ostracised when they smoke in the open and in places they are legally allowed too.

 

Thin end of the wedge. What`s next, drink, skiing, motorcycling, diy etc ? That said I don`t think the state should pick up the tab ( pun intended) for any dangerous activities, lets all insure ourselves. I include overeating in the list of dangerous activities. If you can afford to indulge then you can afford the care you may need.
Smoking is more than self funding as shown on earlier posts so carry on regardless and enjoy.