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Speed Cameras France

Discussion in 'Touring' started by J biker, Aug 22, 2021.

  1. Its not Brexit bullshit its fact, do some research and you will see.
    Just a quick google would have saved the ‘egg on face’.

    This is because law in EU countries entitles authorities to go after the owners of cars who've broken the law. But as the UK was/is a sovereign nation, we've chosen to apply the law differently. We punish the drivers of cars who've broken the law.
     
    #61 Drinky, Apr 15, 2023
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  2. https://assets.publishing.service.g...lease-of-information-from-dvlas-registers.pdf

    So the DvLA site isn’t correct then?


    Reasonable cause for the release of data from the DVLA vehicle register relates to motoring incidents
    with driver or keeper liability. These can include road safety matters, events occurring as a result of vehicle use, enforcing road traffic legislation and collecting tax. In all data release matters, we act responsibly and in accordance with the law.
    Where reasonable cause has been shown, we disclose information on the condition that it will only be used for the requested purpose and that the recipient will protect its confidentiality.
    The law also allows us to charge a fee to cover the cost of processing requests under reasonable cause, so the cost is covered by the requestor and not passed on to the taxpayer.
     
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  3. Passed another pair of roadside snipers coming out of Avignon this afternoon. They’re fekin everywhere down here. Saw a couple of beautiful 911’s and thought ‘what’s the point!’ Luckily I’m driving about like Miss Daisy. So their menacing presence is working…. The thought of a €600 spot fine haunts me… o_O
     
  4. Good lad. That’s the Brexit spirit!! Fuggem :D
     
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  5. Chateauneuf du Pape?
     
  6. Ha, just bought a bottle in the local supermarket. It would have been rude not to…. :D

    No cheaper than at home mind you… :weary_face:
     
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  7. Next time I drive through the UK, I’ll make sure to behave just like that. Like I don’t give a f@ck about local laws and people.

    Wait. No. I won’t, cause my Mama told me it was a very disrespectful thing to do when I was about 5 years old.

    People with your mindset are not welcome outside their home countries. Just remember it.
     
    #67 Guillaume69, Apr 15, 2023
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  8. Right. Of course. France, Italy, Spain, Sweden, Norway or any other European country are not sovereign nations. How stupid of me…
     
  9. Bought some of that a few times for the Mrs, supposed to be a nice tipple.
     
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  10. Which is why they have to remove licences on the spot and leave riders stranded. I bet the same individuals will be blowing their gammon tops when a non Brit does the same in the UK.
     
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  11. You have a point. Disrespect the laws of the country you’re in and you’re sure to come a cropper. But let’s be honest here, we’d all love to get away with the odd speeding ticket here and there… no matter where it happens to be :D
     
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  12. Of course!! These speed cameras are an absolute plague… And you guys started it long before us in the UK, so you have no excuses. :D

    But after having spent a fair amount of time living abroad, I always find it disturbing to see people being so oblivious of local laws and customs. Highly egocentric and disrespectful.

    Let me tell you a little story. A couple decades back, I was deployed in Saudi. A place called PSAB, in Al Karj. About 2hrs drive southeast of Riyadh. Once a month, we would be allowed to drive to the big city to take some time off, mainly shopping for presents for the family, as there’s not much partying going on over there, unlike Dubai or Doha. There was this Saudi highway police checkpoint about 10 miles outside of the city. One time, as we were driving through that check point, we saw a bunch of RAF enlisted young folks (Tornado F3 detachment ground crews) lined up face against a wall, hands crossed in their backs, like kids in time out, and one of them was getting the stick. It turned out they had been caught speeding shortly before the checkpoint. No kidding. That was in 2000.

    As we say in French: « Pas vu, pas pris. Pris, pendu ». ;)
     
    #72 Guillaume69, Apr 16, 2023
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  13. It seems like the sensible and considerate option is to try and abide by the local rules, to avoid being caught not doing so, and suffering the unpleasant consequences. Especially if the enforcement measures are plentiful, and the officers are vigilant!
    Tom.
     
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  14. Drinky, the UK was a sovereign nation before, during and after its membership of the EU ( surprisingly as are most other countries around the world )
    Anyway back to your legal point, please expand on how your interpretation of the current laws sits with S172 RTA 1988....
    Just in case you're not fully up to speed here, that's the part of UK law where the owner of a vehicle gets points or a fine or even both if they refuse to notify or simply cock up on the admin of notifying the driver of said car after an offence is alleged, a bit like the law in most EU countries requires the owner of a vehicle to declare the identity of the driver at the time of an offence or face a penalty themselves.
     
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  15. The sovereign law bit was extracted from from a google search. its still pretty easy to find out for yourself even if your still in denial of Brexit. There is no longer exchange of driver details by DVLA to other countries.
     
  16. it does not happen in the UK, a foreign driver is taken to court in front of a judge (not two coppers on the side of the road).
     
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  17. You have judges ready to audience foreign speeding drivers 24/7 in the UK? Or hotels ready to accommodate aforementioned drivers until a judge becomes available ?

    Geez! You guys are a rich bunch !
     
  18. Smaller transgressions are on the spot AFAIK.

    It would be a night in the cells should the speed be deemed to be hugely excessive or the driving of a dangerous standard before a spot in front of a judge.

    If you’re a U.K. resident then that would be different as you’re unlikely to abscond unlike a tourist just passing through.

    On the whole I’ve not seen that many speeding tourists, maybe it’s an English thing abroad. \o/.
     
    #78 DucatiScud, Apr 16, 2023
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  19. He has the gist of it correct just the process wrong
     
  20. So, in a nutshell: small transgressions get fined on the spot by the Law Enforcement Officers. Big ones leave you « stranded » without your vehicle until you get to talk to a judge (which usually takes weeks, even months, sometimes). Just like anywhere else on our side of the world, I reckon.

    There are stupid tourists originating from all countries, DScud. Nothing specifically English. ;)
     
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