Mate, our driving (riding days) are numbered, let alone speeding: Chris Gerdes: The future race car -- 150mph, and no driver | Video on TED.com Yes, soon transport will be completely efficient and will get you from A to B with no experience and no fun. That is what the quest for efficiency in all areas does. We will end up in future centuries like cows, eating and doing nothing challenging at all. The Health and Safety lobby (and products manufacturers) seek this. You got ABS, then TC and anti-wheeling and god knows what else. To come will be imposed rider modes triggered by roadside transmitters (à la MotoGP!) so that you can't speed or be "unsafe". You can no longer decide if you want your lights on or off. They are on all the time. Coming up will be a whole raft of stuff you no longer decide, thanks to the power of the silicon chip.
Shut-up Glid, no one wants to hear what I was going to say :biggrin: The triple-gods, Health, Safety and Product, in perfect harmony.
Looks like Volvo have already gone some way towards that one: Volvo's driverless road train in Spain is public mainly on the plain (video) -- Engadget The Saint would never have been quite the same if Roger Moore had sat in the passenger seat of his P1800S while it trundled along as part of a road train.
But, unless I've missed a bit here, surely that's a good thing? Reducing the speed limit on A and B roads won't make a huge difference to me, I probably don't stick to the current limits all the time so won't stick to the new limits all the time either. Maybe. Unless there's going to be a traffic cop or camera on every single road I will ride at an appropriate speed, if that's outside a school at chucking out time it will be quite a margin under the limit, if it's on an empty A road then I may possibly exceed the legal limit by a similar percentage. Or not, depending on what my legal representative advises me to say :biggrin:
difference will be that currently we may`wink wink` go over by 5-10 mph, if they reduce the limit and the road is more than able to handle the previous speed, we`re all likely to still do roughly that and so will be exceeding by 20-30 mph. F it, lets all buy 125s and soup them up to the nines. at least that way we can still rag them up to the red line and its only gonna be topping at just over a ton or whatever by the time we hit top gear, and thats if the road is long enough between corners.
If the gov't gets its way, we will all be riding 125s which aren't souped up at all, because they will already be too powerful. Strangely enough, I tested a Kawa 250 Ninja thing last week that belongs to an apprentice at work. He wanted my opinion. Obviously, the thing is completely gutless, but it handles and brakes fine. Then you think, that for doing 50 mph on the open road (the blanket speed limit here) and 75 on motorways, it's actually enough. Which is frightening. It means that the only way of having fun on a bike is to be illegal. And Ducati don't actually make a bike that you could enjoy legally. If anyone has the gall to tell me that they stick to all speed limits (not counting built up areas) at nearly all times, I shall say, what the hell are you doing on this forum? Cos there ain't no passion in that.
Lighten up you lot, all average speed camera's are a con, they dont work, never have and never will, they need everyone to believe that they work so as to be effective, take a look at the one's installed where there are motorway repair's being done, they are not connected to anything, let alone each other. I travel over a 1000 miles every week in my job, as do around 30 or so of my colleagues, none of us has ever had a ticket, hav'nt you noticed how people seem to overtake you all the time in the outside lane whilst you crawl along at 40 or 50 mph?
Nearly all average speed cams * can only see the front numberplates of vehicles unlike the Gatso, which mainly sees the rear numberplates. On some roads e.g. the A13 near me, the old Gatsos have been removed and replaced by average speed cams. So since bikes don't have front numberplates, this means that enforcement is actually much less stringent than previously. And mobile traps are rarely set up on average speed cam stretches of road. I'm not complaining, just saying. * famous exception: Cat & Fiddle, Buxton to Macclesfield road
I was out on a blast after having some mods done on my bike, first sun the UK had seen in living memory, lovely. smashing down the back roads toward Sea Pauling, I go through a small stretch wit a few houses and low and behold there are average speed cams. now my new exhaust sounds so good it encourages me to accelerate `right up to and no further than the speed limit`and knowing that the cams face the front of veh I knew Id be fine to over take the cars. But, for some reason I sat behind the row of cars going through the cam scam zone. Not a problem. It was later that after near Bacton Gas Station I took a turn somewhere Id not ridden before and headed toward North Walsham. A nice piece of road, and later some nice open bends. Then came more Ave speed cams and the usual row of cars. I was about to over take when I noticed the angle of one of the cams, the cams were on a single carriageway,seemed to be not at a shallow angle facing on coming but slightly over facing the other side ie the rear of the other lanes cars. Now a little dubious I waited to see the next set and followed its line of sight and sure enough they point to the rear of the other lane. Concerned I headed straight home, got on the net and dug for info. Sure enough. NEW GENERATION ave speed cams. these face rear (high-lighted as being able to catch motorcyclists) It goes on to explain how the ones we are all accustomed to seeing on the Motorways saying they work in pais, one logs you and the other clocks you hence why you can cheat them, either changing lanes or when you swap motorways. The new ones are different. These has GPS and are all networked so even changing lanes and motorways they talk to each other and calculate how long based on the roads and speed limits you`ve just traveled through, if you have arrived in their cross hairs faster than the law applies. Dont believe me, read up...theres more on the web if you wanna search-http://blog.brickhousesecurity.com/2010/04/29/gps-satellites-speed-cameras-catch/
No, it is not Not if you want to get a wriggle on:frown: Mind you, we can have a bit of fun until they fit rear-facing cameras...
As I said though they do have them. its not easy to spot as the angle is only slightly different. this wont be the case on a motorway as the cams are on the outside lane, its single A roads to watch out and you may not see that they point a slightly diff angle till you`ve gone through.
They are infringing my human rights not to be photographed against my will. Bet that would fly in some European Court of unelected fools somewhere.
Ha ha. As you well know there is no right not to be photographed in a public place, with or without your permission. And no Courts are "elected", at least not by the sort of process used for legislatures. Is anyone saying judges should be "elected" rather than appointed? How would this be an improvement?
Just messing about. No, I didn't know that I didn't have the right not to be photographed. But I'm not surprised. Did Google tippex people out of StreetView just to be nice, although they didn't have to? As for courts - I agree with you. In fact, one is finding increasingly that elections are no guarantee of good democracy (which sounds somewhat oxymoronic. Or just moronic.). I'm not in favour of an elected House of Lords. It will be even more political hacksville than it is already becoming. Sooner have old buffers and worthies than people with an eye on a political career.
Sorry Goody, but i think thats all just more miss-information to fool the general public into thinking that these things actually do work, they dont,
I believe that France has a law governing photography without permission. It used to, anyway. EU may have changed that. LOL - get it? Anything changing the minds of the French is simply not possible :biggrin:
May well be, but i know mates on the m25 caught by ave speed cams, but I know a lot more that have`nt and who smash it round, me included, at 70 ugh-hemm so im just as in favour to believe they dont work. on the other hand I use the school of thought of `appropriate use of speed` meaning where ever im not likely to get caught and doing where there are cameras be them on/off working or not is the actions of a fool-to himself. now`inappropriate use of speed at the wrong time is making a fool of himself and a danger to others. Iv done both a long time ago and my licence is almost clean for the first time in 12 yrs and iv survived to tell my war stories so, IF this is miss-information then I am a fool but a fool thats not gonna pick up anymore points......at least from CASHCAM :smile:
You may be thinking of photography on private land, photographing military installations, aircraft & ships, prisons, in court, etc. which are legally restricted Or you may be thinking of publishing photos without permission of the owner of the copyright. Generally taking photos in the street, or on a public beach, is open season - hence paparazzi.
I'm just going by what a friend said years ago. His mum lived in France for many years and he spent a good deal of time there. This was a few (or more than a few) years ago though, things as I say may have changed. Must have changed, come to think of it, now that you mention the paparazzi.
