Thanks. When they arrive i will see what decals are damaged. As always a pair have now been listed on ebay uk. But tbh the deal Rudy did me for lots of 851 bits i cant grumble.
I don't know about specifics, but if it helps all of you that have gone to a specialist supplier who can mix cans up for you try this: If the paint system they use is Spies Hecker: Code : Ducati 301 / Rosso for a 250ml mix- Mix Amount Cumulative Description WB843 239,6 239,6 Granadarot WB836 14,4 254,0 Dunkelrot WB801 5,9 259,0 Weiss What is important to note is that the colour on our panels has a ground coat of white (WB801) to start with. So what this means is that on your gray primer goes two coats of white (ground coat), then two coats of red Basecoat (Ducati 301) and then two coats of (Laquer) clear coat I'm sure that other paint systems will have different colours to mix and different codes, but the crucial one is Ducati code 301/Rosso This shade is for the carby SS, certainly for the 93-94 models but probably the same for the whole run. Hope this helps in some way.
Right, Fujack my boy, I just been on the Spies Website and gone to their colour picker thingamy - it shows Ducati 301 as being the red up to Model year 2000. so you should be able to go into any paint factor's (irrespective of supplier) and ask for ducati 301 rosso and they should be able to mix it for you. Don't forget though it needs a white ground coat.
Sorry for bumping this old thread, but a) it contains some really useful info b) I have some questions about painting: This is the state of my right side fairing: What do you guys reckon the best way to deal with it is - touch up paint or spray, and do I need to rub it down, and is filler required? Can I do it without removing the fairing from the bike? Apologies for all the dumb questions, it's years since I've sprayed anything. I also took off the front fairing after purchasing a slightly more intact version off a forum member here. Might anyone be interested in this? I'm keeping the screen as a spare. Damage:
Spray all the way. You can never get a decent finish with touch up paint using those paint brushes. I've learnt it's better to put in the work and get it done properly otherwise you will always look at it and be pissed off.
on the side fairing take the indicator out. rub the bodged overspray away. use a rubbing block, and some 400 wet and prep the area - move the block in a 45 degree stroke rather than up and down, in that way you keep to the curvature of panel rather than risk sanding the spot flat. if you're going to rattle can you will need: Filler primer Some matt black spray, or soot. Primer (oe was grey) ground coat (depending on paint supplier) base coat (depending on paint supplier) laquer Mask off the area. You ideally want to mask in the case of your main fairing, the main fairing panel face, as you're fortunate that you can lose a lot of the spray on the shape. The way the indicator pod bends light means that re-spraying it will be quite forgiving. Rub surface ready for paint. first fill in any cracks or dinks with car body filler - p38, top stop gold or similar. sand again to make it lovely, spray filler primer apply a mist of matt black or soot. - this is called a guide coat. Rub down this layer - the black from the matt black or soot will show you where the low spots are. If you have low spots, apply filler and repeat. when your panel is smooth, you should see no guide coat remaining. apply primer apply a mist of your ground coat (this not only helps you get a feel for your spray, but also provides a 'grip coat' for the rest to adhere to. 2 coats of ground coat. wait for it to flash off and ready to accept a coat. 2 coats of base coat flash off, 2 coats of laquer. This process is called wet on wet because you're not letting each application go hard and have to rub it back. leave to harden overnight. Finishing (if you're feeling brave) this is to remove any orange peel or 'gun finish' : rub down with a 2000 grade wet and dry. Don't go too mental as you'll bust through the laquer and you'll need to start again. use compound to polish the laquer to a mirror finish. any other questions, just ask.
What Sev said. I will add, after doing a spray job myself which turned out, umm ok, use a plastic primer. I used a regular primer and when it got hot and there was slight movement, it had a few tiny cracks underneath the other layers and it came through the lacquers. Do not use Halford's stuff, it's shit. And if you plan on riding it soon, get a lacquer that cures very fast.
And it will still look like you painted it with a spray can and is fine if your bike is only worth £300 ! Get it done professionally or you will make things worse for sure
To be honest I only want the bike to look good from 1m away rather than 5m away at present. I've looked into this company for supplies - RS Motorbike Paint Products - Motorcycle paint, bike paint. Touch-up, aerosol, spray gun. Kawasaki Honda Yamaha but the cost adds up if you get all the gear..and I don't have any place to spray it... Might give these guys a go though: http://www.motorcyclewebsite.com/hendon-coachworks
In the short term, yes - just the damage above to the edge of the right hand fairing panel by the indicator. In the longer term (couple of years I guess) I'd like to respray the whole bike - on the same panel there's slight crazing of the paint where it meets the lower fairing stay, there's some stone chipping to the replacement front fairing panel I fitted, and a scuff to the seat cowl (right over the 900 decal) where the bike fell over at some point prior to my custodianship. Plus it has too many stickers on it...!
I would go for the rattlecan if it's a short-term thing. You can get good results, just depends on prep, technique and lacquer. I think Imola used a rattlecan for his 851/888 and mine wasn't too bad, it was the lacquer that was the problem.
Really informative thread I was considering getting some rattle cans made up to do a single seat unit, especially as the number boards will cover the majoirty of the surface area. I'm really not sure now, I might just gve it to the local spray shop and tell 'em Ducati 301 / Rosso!
John, don't use rattle cans to spray a seat unit, there's way to much surface area to cover without getting that tell tale banding. for the cost, you're better off hiring a compressor and gun, failing that, yes, drop it into your local shop. What it could be worth you doing is asking how much of a price difference there would be for you to do the prep work yourself. If all you have to do is give the sprayer the panel to throw colour onto its much cheaper than if he has to rub it down and make it smooth. You'd then do the donkey work... rub the panel for him, he throws the filler primer on for you, you take it way and do the smoothing and filling, and then he just has to throw the colour onto it, and apply the decals and lacquer over it.
Wise words, cheers Sev I haven't seen the thing in the flesh yet (hopefully picking it up tomorrow) but will take on board what you've said. I may have a new track fairing to paint at the same time, in which case there is no way I'm doing it myself. Prep work however, no problem...
