Stoner to retire

Discussion in 'Racing & Bike Sport' started by bigleggy3, May 17, 2012.

  1. Yes including moto2 and moto3 I found my self hoping for all in front to drop off for the Rossi Frenchman do no why.
     
  2. F1 was a total snoozefest until recently. Ecclescake must have noticed this and all sorts of rules were brought in to make it interesting, which it now is, quite (a bit too much emphasis on tyre management). So surely Dorna could have a look at the MotoGP rules and make it all interesting again (and vaguely affordable for teams). The one-tyre rule may have been good on paper, but it's rubbish on the track. Then they could look at all the silly engine management systems which try and ride the bike for you. And then look at how many engines you're allowed. etc. etc.

    Thing is, it doesn't have to be so expensive, complicated and dull. They can write the rulebook they want.

    The CRT thing seems to be a complete red-herring. How has this made the series better? It's just introduced mobile chicanes. They need all the manufacturers to come back - Suzi, Kwacker, Aprilia for starters. What they have to work out is what would be required to get this to happen. I don't buy the "economic crisis" argument. Most big firms are making more money than they ever have. Just follow the info on the markets on the on-line FT.
     
  3. There are budding CRT teams breaking down the doors to get into motogp, so there's mileage in the format (although I daresay there's some pretty heavy incentives being offered at the moment). Times are changing. I used to be dead-set against any control measures in motogp - it's a prototype series - but the success of moto2 and moto3 counters any argument I have. I predicted that moto2 would be a shambles...until the first corner of the first race. Everyone said that moto3 would be under-subscribed...

    The big budget teams are on the way out. Huge budgets and space-age technology doesn't make a race series, racing makes a race series.

    Here's a thought. What if Rossi isn't developing a one-off gp missile...what if he's developing a customer bike..?
     
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  4. Reading and watching stuff today..... Ducati really pissed stoner off! He liked the family feel in the team!
    So get over it, go back to ducati and team up with Vale, leave vale to the PR shite you hate! you do the buissness on track, then you can thank vale for changing ducati's veiw on racing in motogp, You never know he could end up being the team boss? The future!!!!!
     
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  5. Jesus! That's about as left field as it gets! Yeah we know Ducati/PM pissed Stoner off and he was happy at Ducati. Which says a lot about what Stoner feels is important becuase he wasn't getting paid much and wasn't getting the bike he wanted but he still liked the team. They totally mismanaged him.

    I personally hope that he stays on for another year or two. Now that he's got this decision out of the way he'll concentrate on the racing and maybe the enjoyment will come back to him a bit as he settles into a race with Jorge for the title. They're two wins apiece now and Jorge's two seconds beat Casey's two thirds, not much between them and it'll be a BONZA title fight :biggrin:

    I'm thinking I'm going to go to Phillip Island for the race - it's a few days after my birthday and I'll be in Melbourne the weekend before anyway because I've signed up for a 250k cycle ride. The company I work for has an office in Melbs so I can head into work for a few days and save my leave... hmmm...
     
  6. Now that I'll go along with.

    I take it you watched the BBC interview? He seemed really just upset and worn down by the last couple of years, everything he's risked and given up for the love of his sport and I think he feels he can't trust anyone or get too close to them because of the politics and back stabbing, which says to me he really is just the shy simple guy, he's not in it for the bigger bucks or the fame, he's just wants to race.

    Now if he joined Vale he could almost protect him from that in a way, Vale as you say could handle media and push the buttons for investment and development and he can work with Casey on getting the maximum out of the bike.

    Then if Stoner still wanted to be around in a couple of years Vale could move up to management and they both bring on some new blood , schooling them as it were.

    Now that's the idea of the century, It'd turn the team concept on its head and get rid of the fat cats who probably can't even ride a fucking bike :)
     
  7. I'm Australian. I loathed the coont. A wretched "sportsman" but by Christ he's brilliant rider. Note I said rider; not racer. He can pedal a machine around at warp speed and is the only pilot to put the Duc on the World Champ podium, but that said, wrapped up wayyyy too tight as a man. Lorenzo & Rossi and company just overwhelmed him when it came to the pack racing.

    All the best to him, now let the racers power on.

    C'mon Valentino you old fart :)
     
  8. I Fail to see how Casey can justify blaming his issues on Ducati either . How the fcuk did it become their fault?

    Jorge will win the championship this year , casey will more and more this season make the decision in a race that that move he would otherwise have risked is not worth it.
    It only takes a few of those calls through the year and thats that.
     
  9. If Jorge wins it he deserves it, that's true with all champions IMO

    I have a lot of respect for Jorge, he's 'terminator esq' in his approach to each race and just keeps coming, lap after lap pin point accuracy and throttle, if Stoner puts it together he gets the lead on Jorge but that gap remains tight, if Stoner dosnt get away then Jorge is there all the way just waiting. Stoner in majority of occasions beats JL down to pushing almost beyond the limit but that has its consequences, JL sits bang on the limit, no more no less. Perfection in laps is what he aims for, boring at times but a amazing skill which wears down the other riders around him

    Hes a very very cunning and driven bloke is JL, he's definitely a true Alien is that lad
     
  10. Stoner Hates being at honda! That is why one of the reasons he's throwing the gloves in.
    I mean that fug ugly fat jap twat boss never smiles!
    Can't say i have seen pedders smile of late ?
    Rossi got out of it, so stoner should go to yamaha or back to ducati and enjoy racing again in a fun garage instead of a corperate morge!!

    BTW Moto gp is in the state it is because of honda wanting the rules changed to suite them not dorna, what dorna have is a pile of poo honda left behind trying to win the championship
    and to be great again!
    Next year they will struggle and they deserve it.
     
  11. I think that Ducati must have lost it with Stoner when he went AWOL with his lactose intolerance problem. Seems they didn't think there was a problem, that he was just a hypochondriac. That must have been galling when you're feeling crap and they tell you to get out there and risk life and limb. And he was proven right. It doesn't take more than a couple of people in the wrong places in any organisation for you to stop enjoying your work.
     
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  12. all thanks to honda :upyeah:
     
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