Given that U.K. Govt promised the Scots we’d remain in the EU, and they have since been dragged out largely by the votes of the English population alone, I don’t entirely blame them for developing hatred or distrust of the English (quite aside from any older historical events)... I don’t think it amounts to racism though - it’s typically the Westminster establishment that is the focus of their anger, not individual English people.
@bradders so you reckon 58% of the population of Scotland hate the English because they support independence. you do know that there will be English people within that 58%?
hmm, is bladders is exposing his hatred again?. forgive him, he is only guilty of laziness. shite in, shite out. that's how it works.
For me i love europeans and europe but not this uncontrolled migration situation,it needs to be addessed like all other UK problems.
If a British subject, Banksy, wants to spend his money on a boat to rescue them in the Mediterranean, then he should transport them to the UK rather than to Italy and making them find their own way to Calais and then across the channel. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...efugee-rescue-boat-operating-in-mediterranean
I dont think it will make any difference either way. Its down to our government, and pretty much always has been. When living in Scandinavia, it was interesting to observe all of the different handling of immigration under the "EU parameters".When I first settled in Sweden they were taking in anyone from anywhere and worrying about the problem later. The trains coming from Denmark were full of families with their lives in plastic bags, day upon day. There were no checks at all at the border. Over a few years they went from this to making closed borders with passport checks as an emergency solution. EU said this could only be allowed for a few months,but it was still in operation several years later. The Danes have always been brutal, and just did anything possible to minimise the numbers (especially economic migrants from the middle east). On top of the hard vetting for being allowed to stay temporarily, they were ruthless with benefit entitlement and integration was heavily forced with language exams etc. We have always had flexibility in the Uk to control our borders more, but alas our governments, regardless of party, have given a soft hands off approach and then blamed anyone else but themselves.
Work brought three of my good friends who are English to live in Scotland then they came to realise how badly Scotland is treated by the UK government. They are even more fervently in favour of Scottish independence than I am.
The Leave campaigns cynically weaponised the issue of immigration to get people to vote for Brexit (Farage’s Election Day poster showing lines of refugees ‘poised to invade’), despite knowing full well that it was nothing to do with EU Membership. In a close vote, it’s quite likely that this single BIG lie swung it. And we will live with the economic consequences for decades. It’s a massive f*ck up.
And with Brexit the Dublin agreement also ended. So the UK can no longer send the immigrants back to EU countries but can only send them back to their country of origin. Plane loads to Iraq/Syria/etc.?
Yawn. Indi thread again. Voting for independence is not connected to racism. It’s connected to ‘rowing your own boat’. Which ironically Scotland have been doing mostly for some years now. You can’t say all Scots hate the English. But if you ranked ‘likes’ amongst all nations England would come bottom....except for working here, obviously. And the tax we give over. And the support when needed like in the defence industry. Do I ACTUALLY think Scots are racist? No. But then I don’t think it’s racist is someone doesn’t like the Polish either. It’s often the culture people don’t like and associate with the purple. Being from a country isn’t a race IMO. But as you all love the card, I figured I’d play it. Join in a bit. Feel part of the band.
It could have been addressed as an EU member state but successive Governments chose to ignore it ( the cynic in me thinks this is to do with the import of cheap labour but maybe the Govts were just full of lazy arseholes who knew nothing about life). Instead we now have an economic mess as well with many UK based companies finding it hard if not impossible to trade with imports and exports as they did.
