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1200 DVT Test Ride Opinion: 1200 Dvt V Ktm Super Adv V Bmw 1000 Engined Thing

Discussion in 'Multistrada' started by tobers, Apr 25, 2015.

  1. There are loads of after market rad and oil cooler guards for the 1000R series so I expect the same for the 1000XR.
    The bigger worry for the XR, although doesn't seem to be obvious on the BMW 1000R forum is the K12 and K13's, with a lower radiator suffered blockages - and it's a well known problem not addressed by BMW. Both my 12 and 13 started to overheat with what seemed like very little stuff between the fins. But you must clean them out regularly. The fins are too delicate on those models to use a pressure wash, so air line and garden hose does the trick. And road salt loves the fins. And, extended warranty doesn't cover the rad at £500.
    With guards and care the new XR should be OK but then they aren't really going to go on anything more than tarmac.
     
  2. That's it, just didn't seem as well put together as the Multi. Also not sure the screaming 4cyl motor goes with the 'adventure sport' thing.
     
  3. Is it the same engine that's in Hodgies bike when he does his demo lap on BT sport MotoGP? he rev's the tits off that to find some power. pardon my French.
     
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  4. That's exactly what I thought. At motorway speeds the S1000R was just too revvy and not at all relaxing. I noted that the S1000XR has exactly the same gearing as the S1000R so I think it will all be a bit too annoying on a long run.
     
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  5. I'd beg to differ.

    I've owned a Multi since 2010, and I bought an S1000R last year. The engine in the BM although an IL4, will pull from everywhere (20 - 30mph through towns) in 6th Gear. I certainly wouldn't dismiss the XR due to the engine, I'm sure it'll be absolutely brilliant. It will chug like a twin, and when you feel the urge, it'll let fly like a banshee! The rush and noise is very addictive.

    I never thought I'd want anything to replace my Multi apart from another one. However with this XR now there's definitely a decision to be made. I look forward to having ago on both of them.
     
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  6. I'd be interested to hear your view of the DVT when you've ridden it. I'm currently erring towards the 1290 - I was blown away by the test ride I did. I currently have a '13 Skyhook and agree with you about the suspension being harsh - especially next to the KTM's.

     
  7. I agree with Gilly, I'm on my second Mutley but previously had a GSXR 1000 which was very flexible and would pull from 30 mph in top no problem.

    The XR is also very competitively priced, the top model with every conceivable extra is £14750.

    The quickshifter is something I want to try. I have ridden the DVT and yes it is fantastic but to make it into a Touring S which I have will put the cost north of £16000! That maybe a step to far for me which is a shame because I love my Mutley and I'm going on my second European Multistrada Meet next month.

    I'm going to test ride the XR later this month so I wil report back my thoughts.
     
  8. Coming off my 899 I took out the DVT last week for a test ride. Great bike but it's just too pricy in my opinion - the lack of a quick shifter and poor throttle response were the deciding factors not to purchase one. Taking out the S1000XR in a few weeks and I’m hoping, as on paper, it ticks all the boxes
     
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  9. The XR will pull just as quickly as a v-twin - I wouldn't worry about that. MTS v's XR discussion is just the age old preference for big twin v's IL4 - different people prefer different configurations for whatever personal reasons - real or not. Personally I've ridden & owned every engine configuration in production- they're all quick and all have their charms.
    However, I think KTM have thrown a huge spanner in the works with the SMT successor - which it would seem will be called Super Duke GT in some markets at least. The SMT was an awesome tool for every occasion - let down by p*ss poor fuelling at low revs - fixed with the twin spark 1190. Now they're putting the 1290 engine in a slightly taller Super Duke, with minimalist fairing - I think the MTS has just met it's match.
    Can't wait to see how it comes out.
     
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  10. Here a good video showing the pace and torque/flexibility of the XR



    No doubt in my mind this bike has pace and performance.
     
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  11. Nah I'm sorry but if I rev a my mutliy that fast my front wheel come up. I've no doubt it's fast but it seems all noise no action to me.
     
  12. I like "when you take a pleasure travel with your girlfriend"...
     
  13. Yeah, so does an MTS have pace and performance. What's special about it? It's a boring uber linear and vacuum cleaner smooth IL4 without the torque rich drive that a Twin offers. And torque-rich drive is exactly what you want for fast road riding. As I keep saying - the MTS is lighter, has the same top end HP, and 25% more torque.
     
  14. That sounds like Multi sour grapes ;)
     
  15. Apparently the 228kg weight includes a full tank of fuel. Like for like, the 2015 Ducati Multistrada is actually a slightly heavier machine.
     
  16. Me too. Just returned from a trip down to Sicily and some long days when my wife did not take pleasure in travel,lol.
     
  17. I've just come from an S1000R. Having much more fun on my dvt.

    The constant drone from the exhaust on the motorway was a right pain.

    This model does sound quieter, but still boring compared to the big twin.
     
  18. Err? No it's the truth. I looked into part ex'ing my 1200 S GT for one but I just don't think I could go back to a low toque high revving bike
     
  19. Picking up tomorrow (Thursday). Can't wait!
     
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  20. Had a couple of hours on a BMW 1000XR today. The demonstrator had all the toys but was over due its 600 mile service so limited to 9k. For the length of time and type of roads I was riding that was just about enough thank you! The engine was ballistic with plenty enough low down grunt to pull like a train out of tight corners. The handling was superb and the brakes awesome, both on par with the DVT.
    The quick shifter was brilliant up the box but I found the auto blipper down the box a bit stiff needing a firm pressure to change sometimes ( salesman reckoned that this was due to it needing the oil changed)
    Screen seemed to work providing good protection in both positions. Gawd knows how your supposed to change screen position on the move as I couldn't manage it.
    Feel of the bike was quite different to the Multi. Engine felt buzzy in comparison especially when sat at indicated 70-75 on the motorway. Quite irritating after a while but I've no doubt it would smooth out with more miles and raising the speed to 80 or so seemed to improve it.
    So all in all a brilliant bike suffering minor irritations only (no span adjusters on the clutch for heavens sake!). It's going to be close run thing between the Mutley and XR I'm afraid.
     
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