so why is to that anyone who thinks British first, rest second when it does to rights in the UK are branded racist? Australia, USA, Canada all operate pretty tough immigration regimes. Do they get called racists or pro-nationalists?
Maybe they are paranoid Bradders as no one is against a sensible argument/debate on controlled immigration. The people I class a racists are dumbass edl that tar people with the same brush like Muslim community.Or dickheads that think all Romanians are pick pockets. Id agree with pingping on USA and Australia. John Pilger Utopia is a good watch on Australia.Also watched a good documentary on ITV about Sammy Davis Jnr.Yeah USA seems institutionaly racist to me and little has changed in some states.
So many Brits go abroad on holiday and want to eat English food,followed by stupid amounts of English beer and complain when the locals dont speak English.We (the British) had the empire(yep,we invaded) together with the French,the Spanish and the good folk from Portugal and now we(some of us) complain about others coming here.Really!!! This whole issue is a fog trying to somehow get our minds off other posibly more important issues.Who says that bullsh*t doesn't baffle brains.
the difference Stu is we do not discriminate when it comes to health and education, and prefer not to see shanty towns full of immigrants living in gutters. Other countries, even in the Eu, are less welcoming and happy to say no to supporting those in need of help personally I don't care as long as they pay taxes and pay their way. Alas many don't do either
I live in a small cottage in a village in Bedfordshire. I get on very well with my neighbours. We help each other out with things like keeping an eye on each others houses during holidays or for example when their washing machine broke I let them use mine. Nice, how things should be. I would not let them move in though just because they are neighbours and fancied a change of scenery. I would not let them use all the firewood I have chopped for the fire , I would not let them use all the hot water so I could not have a bath when I want to and I would not let them eat all the tomatoes growing in my garden. If I need help paying the mortgage I might rent them a room for a while. If I need the roof to be repaired I`ll pay someone to do it without letting them live here. I`ll be a good neighbour but not a pushover . I`m not anti Europe by any means, I love going to the continent and happy to have them come to the UK but it has to be on the right terms and I dont think that is what we have at present. In my opinion the negatives of us being in the EU outweigh the positives. I cant see it changing drastically so I would like a referendum. If we come out great, if not then at least I know that is what the electorate want as opposed to what the electorate currently get.
Nothing wrong with the French.After all we are becoming closer allies especially now we have no aircraft carriers.Arent many EU nations also supplying troops for recent conflicts like Afghanistan.Better together I say but then you would think its just the UK and US over there from our crap very biased news. As for immigration this says it all.
Depends Bradders.I wouldn't know as im not a immigration/asylum officer.Maybe Pete can explain are legal obligation for genuine asylum seekers in fear of there life and the obligation of other nations also. I guess it depends what they have to offer.Many people are welcomed with open arms as they have sensitive knowledge of our enemies for instance which is very useful to our security services or benefit us economically. Maybe in that French shithole camp is a Nigerian that fled boko haram.Now that would also be VERY useful to us at present. Then again some might well be economic migrants that fancy a better life.Guess you have to take it on a case by case basis.
cake and eat it tho. You either accept an open borders policy, or you don't. How does a human from Albania have less of a right for entry than one born in France? But like the internet and porn...the box is now open, its what we do with it from here
We need to differentiate between those that are economic migrants that come here for a better life (like we do going to spain, france etc and like we did when we conquered by force australia, new zealand, the americas, india etc; and those that come here with a criminal intent as we are seen as a soft touch. Those that come here for a better life in my experience are hard working, contribute to society, pay taxes etc. I have met numerous 'illegal' immigrants that have travelled from war zones (quite often due to our and the US's involvement) from thousands of miles away bringing only what they can carry and wanting to create a better life for themselves. I have also dealt with criminal gangs that have seen the UK as a soft touch and have taken advantage of our criminal justice system , and these in my experience tend to be from poorer EU countries. If we look back at the 50's and 60's the last time of big immigration look how badly these migrants were treated by the general population. Yet now they have assimilated into what was a white population and have become 3rd, 4th generation british citizens contributing to the general economic well being of the UK. We are a bastard nation, from time immemorial the Celts, the Picts, through to the Romans, Angles, Saxons,French, the Hugenots. And long may our diverse open minded tradition continue. Thats why I dislike this reactionary vote winning tripe spouted by UKIP.
I am also not an Immigration Officer, although I used to be the manager of the Immigration Appeal Tribunal some years ago. In that capacity I had hardly any influence at all on asylum policy I'm afraid. People seeking asylum tell their story which may or may not be true, may or may not be believed, and may or may not justify them being granted asylum. There is hardly ever any corroborative evidence to support whatever story they tell. Whenever some appeal succeeds on the basis of some particular story, very rapidly numerous other appellants tell the same story - word has got around that that story "works". The volume of cases far exceeds the resources available to deal with them, inevitably. The judges' task of sorting the wheat from the chaff is fantastically difficult in this jurisdiction. The saddest cases are people who are advised to tell a pack of lies, and fail in consequence, but if only they had told the truth about themselves they would have succeeded.
Wow! I thought this forum was just about uber sexy Ducati's. How naive I must be, suppose this comes with living in Derbyshire.
Australia, Canada and USA are all nations of immigrants who (still) welcome immigrants. They are big countries with lots of room. The thing is they have structured, controlled, well-defined systems for vetting and approving intending immigrants. What they object to most is people who are trying to 'jump the queue' as they see it.
