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This Seasons Flu

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by bradders, Nov 11, 2021.


  1. With all respect, we all get info from people who fuck things up relentlessly and still expect us to hang on every word that comes out of their corrupt mouths. As some know, I work with the nhs and there’s so much more that goes on that never gets ‘out’. There’s a fuck tonne of biased media with very little to nothing to the contrary… a lot of which is not generally what I hear the educated public and nhs workers saying.

    You’re a braver man than me arguing the case when most things have been varying shades of fudged to fucked throughout.
     
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  2. Look at the last 18months covid 19 death figures. If you don't believe them, look at the excess deaths figures by month following the introduction of the vaxx. If the reduction in excess deaths to approaching normal levels was and the introduction of the vaxx was just a co incidence, what has caused the turn around?

    I don't trust the government an inch, certainly not one led by this fat imbecile. But I don't think the NHS staff as a whole would have injected us all if they weren't fairly certain to totally convinced that it is the best thing to do.
     
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  3. I hear you bud, but there’s so many variables in that. The fact most flu like virus are seasonal and usually worse early on. Anti bodies. Etc etc. But I get what you’re saying.

    I just hate the tunnel vision thing that’s going on. Humans have been historically easily persuaded to do the wrong thing in hindsight. Nobody questions shit these days and those that do get labelled conspiracy theorist's to discredit them.
     
    #43 Advikaz, Nov 12, 2021
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  4. That was precisely my point. The vaccine was to all intents and purposes trialled by the people to whom it has been administered over the past 11 months, and side effects, adverse interactions and contra-indications* often take time to manifest themselves, which is precisely why I sat it out. I never mentioned "millions of blood clot victims" but said that side effects are "very rare but very serious" and even our own gang of Governmental crooks, incompetents, liars and cronies acknowledge the risk ("Although this condition [blood clots] remains extremely rare there is a higher risk in people after the first dose of the AZ vaccine.").

    The whole thing has been rushed, and it may well be that the risk versus reward calculation justified doing so, but tbh there's so much misinformation out there (from both sides, including our own Govt which openly advocated exaggerating the threat in order to get people to comply with lockdowns) and there's so much suppression of debate by way of dissenting voices being silenced and ridiculed, that I am keeping an open mind on the whole affair. One thing I don't need to keep an open mind about though and of which I am certain is that drug companies' duty is to their shareholders and not the wider public good, while governments and regulators often drop a bollock when under pressure and then they cover it up.


    * I suffer from migraines and take sumatriptan at least a couple of times per month. Sumatriptan can interact adversely with a number of other medications but I'm willing to bet my left bollock that there haven't been any studies to see whether the vaccines play nicely with it.
     
    #44 Zhed46, Nov 12, 2021
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  5. This ^^ in all aspects of life.
    I guess for some it's just easier to go with the flow.
     
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  6. One of the many reasons my birds mum doesn’t like me is because I question things. She’s worked in education most of her life so is a bit of a mong to be fair.

    It does however make blasting her daughters vagina into next year ever more enjoyable :fist:
     
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  7. Is her pet name "plasterers radio" or PR for short?
     
    #47 Jez900ie, Nov 12, 2021
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  8. She prefers the term ‘cum dumpster’ or ‘Daddy’s little cum sponge’ as it’s more affectionate
     
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  9. "Millions of blood clot victims" was a reference to the madness of the media and government reactions -not you. Do you remember when it was announced on the news? Someone in Sweden had heard from their brothers dog breeder, in a post on twitter that Karen from Tescos knew someone who actually had a blood clot? This was back when 1800 people a day were dying in the UK of CV19.
     
  10. The world is naval gazing. And while that happens, the billionaires and power brokers get richer and more power.

    Must be time for a sheering soon.
     
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  11. Ah, ok. I'll edit my post so it appears less of a dig at you! :upyeah:

    As someone who was also in the trenches of the various Speakers' Corner wars until relative peace broke out 12 months ago, you will know that I give very short shrift to self-taught internet experts, but in this instance it has turned out that there is a link between the vaccine and blood clots, albeit the risk is very small. However, at the time the first anecdotal reports started to come out, the rebuttal response from the authorities was, in terms, "Poppycock! The vaccine has been rigorously tested and there are no side effects whatsoever". Unfortunately, by adopting such a dismissive and gung ho position rather than being a little more measured, they made themselves a hostage to fortune and the subsequent partial climb down damaged their credibility (IMO).
     
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  12. I fucking hope so. The NHS is a bag of shite and needs taking by the scruff of the neck and given a good shake. Not fit for purpose.

    * I don’t hate the NHS before the fairies pile on. The NHS once 100% saved my life. And on a separate occasion saved my left eye…
     
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  13. I do agree mate. It’s systematically fucked, much like our politics. How on Earth do you begin to unfuck something that’s been so Vigourously hammered?
     
  14. Put me in charge. Mind I’m too busy come to think of it….
     
  15. Trouble is that it’s run like a business without the real drivers to make it one including staffing.

    Some simple decisions that on some basis make absolute sense but don’t when you apply a national service lens. Reduce capacity in ambulances by closing sites and working to a strong productivity measure. Save tax payer cash right? At high knock on costs to lives and further in the chain. Privatise care homes, save taxpayer money and let people who can afford it pay for their own care. I sceptical costs have increased 100’s of percent as those who can’t afford must be subsidised, incl the lost profit, by those ‘and wHo can’. And then wonder why beds are clogged with patients not able to be related into a safe care environment
     

  16. Poisoned chalice that one.
     
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  17. Isn't that the problem, too many people in charge, so much fucking paperwork.

    As said previously, wife is front line up to her neck in this covid shit.
    They decided too many people for car park spaces, she didn't qualify under the new rules, yet when you go on a Saturday the car park is half empty, seems all the mangers and paper shufflers got in.
     
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  18. saw it time and time again during lockdowns. Hospitals apparently at Capacity (they always are) yet on a Friday the staff car park was deserted. Laughable really. Everytime I visited a hospital they resembled a fucking ghost town. Many of them had fuck all covid beds so being at capacity was sometimes because they only had 7 pissing beds, not because the place was at the rafters. Absolute strokers.

    There is 100% something more to all of this. I don’t preach to know what, but it cannot be just covid.
     
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  19. According to your most recent account, your gf might be able to advise...:D
     
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  20. I have first hand accounts of empty hospitals and the staff actually having little parties on the empty wards.
     
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