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V4 V4r Maintenance Costs

Discussion in 'Panigale' started by Mary Hinge, Dec 6, 2019.

  1. The V4S doesn't have titanium con rods nor does it have the cam profile of the V4R or the rev limit of the V4R. I expect the workshop technical bulletin for the V4S to recommend less replacement. I also expect over time as more and more data is collected for the servicing to be changed to reflect what is actually happening. Andy
     
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  2. I think a lot has to do with piston speed.
     
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  3. Yep. Which is tied to rpm.
     
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  4. It also depends what revs you're running to. The engines will last a lot longer if you're not constantly on the limit.
     
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  5. What an interesting bike thread :)
     
    #65 bradders, Dec 9, 2019
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  6. i agree :)
     
  7. And stroke, which is probably why my 996 keeps knocking bottom ends out....
     
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  8. Plus crank throw..

    Edit just seen above post.
     
  9. I’d rather have the bmw that baron Von cockwomble has for the track by the sounds of this thread
     
  10. Has anyone asked for the race service schedule for other Ducati’s?

    All of the owners manuals state the same thing - even the humble 959:

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  11. World Superbike Rev limits — V4R stands out a bit!

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  12. I’m interested to see how the Beamer goes once they get a workable race engine in place.
     
  13. If WSBK had played by their own rules, the V4RS could have revved to 17,000. Andy
     
  14. Thats a new engine every 23 track days i think it worked out to at £9000 a go
     
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  15. Doesn't say change pistons after 1500 km/miles tho
     
  16. For those of you who are interested in facts.

    https://www.racepagesdigital.com/pi...estructive-forces-at-work-inside-your-engine/

    Below are the Mean Piston Speeds in feet per minute for the following bikes based on the maximum Rev limit on each bike. For most bikes this is only possible in 6th gear.

    If you read the article you will see than engine designers use this as gauge of reliability - it also explains why the V4 and the V4R would both have the same service schedule. If you check the user manual for both bikes the road use schedule is the same and no different from any other panigale. They all state clearly that the schedule would be different for race use.

    If anyone has a copy of the race service schedule for a 959 I for one would be very interested!
    Desmosedici RR - 3965 —- 14200 rpm
    1199 — 4508 —- 11300 rpm
    959 —- 4587 —- 11500 rpm
    1199/1299 — 4787 —- 12000 rpm
    Panigale R — 4986 —- 12500 rpm
    V4 —- 5246 —- 15000 rpm
    V4R —- 5240 —- 16500 rpm​

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    #76 LiveFast......, Dec 9, 2019
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  17. Think il just stick with my old k2 , just having it's first refresh at 30k miles and 16 years old :D
     
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  18. Not too bad then as I probably spend more than that on coke and strippers in 3 months
     
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  19. Hence my comments. Especially if this applies to standard V4 if used for track days!!
    Makes a 65k bmw with 3 yr / 5k miles warranty on track seem cheap!
     
  20. I imagine there will be a few "low mileage" bikes with pristine bodywork for sale in a couple of seasons time.
    One careful owner, never tracked (cough cough).
     
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