I have been told that i have excellent body position when cornering ie, half arse of the seat, weight and head to the inside of the turn and bike , but one thing i am struggling with is quick and a more aggressive turn in eg, foggy esses after the dunlop straight and the melbourne loop at donington , after a long straight i struggle to tip the bike in for the slower corners , do i need to be more aggressive to take the bike from upright to cranked over , and should the weight be on the front end , as i was told this by an instructor he says its natural and its called feel yet with an upright bike like s1000 xr or multistrada there seems to beless feel from the front end and it seems to turn easier advice please , my intial thoughts are just turn the bloody thing hard and quick and stop being a faggot
What are you riding a multi or a sports bike? You have to be aggressive on the bars and it is one time when your knees and hips can make a huge difference. Search youtube for css clips, think they call it the hip flick (?) but essentially you press hard against the tank with outside leg, think closing your knees, which shoves your weight to the opposite side while being forceful with the bars Be warmed tho, a chassis that can't cope with quick directional changes has a habit of letting you know IME! Expecially long (like a monster) or long-travel bikes like multistradas Watch a panigale 899 Imola vid when it was launched, the pace it changes direction is frightening. Having ridden one, it takes almost no effort to change direction.
i'm on a gixxer 1000 just seems alot of weight on the front end , guess i'm no being forceful enough , thinking that the front will wash out + think i put to much weight through the bars
Tbh I have struggled a lot with my gixer 1000 too. It doesnt change direction anything like as easily or quickly as my race bikes used to, but then they were narrower at the base of the tank and I suspect this has an impact I have just raised mine, so its more like the old AMA bikes, 5mm showing on the shock plus the forks flush. Makes it taller, esp with 200/60 rear, and means my knee may not go down but its expected it will help tip in and quicken everything up But yes, you have to be aggressive. I have never heard of or seen evidence of quick steering input throwing someone down the road unless it was in greasy or wet conditions. Many trackday riders who may think it has had an input will find a pro puts so much more thru the bars that its actually something else that makes the front wash out Watch a CSS guy doing a demo, it shows how hard yiu can turn
is there a video on the css guy doing a quick turn , i think im lazy and to soft in dry conditions so will try to improve this . Also get less weight off the bars aswell
Sure there will be, but wont be a css video it will be a punter following one. I'll see if I can find one of mine, there are a couple which show it goes upright BANG on its side. When racing, and sometimes when getting an NL or whoever instructor for a session, comments are made at how late, aggressive and fast I turn. With my small cc race bikes I would be on the throttle way before the apex. Cant quite do that on the gixer. Aparently I Used to leave black lines on the way into a corner, not from backing in but from smashing the throttle open. It was quick steering that allowed me to do that. But I only had 60hp... One thing I cant get my head around tho is fast steer with quite a lot of grakes on, so on the gixer I am way to slow in but get great drive out. Just proves slow in fats out doesnt work lol Can say, other than to avoid hitting another rider or clipping a kerb (knob!!) I have not lost the front, always the back at apex. But thats a different issue
All the gear no idea mate lol Heres a mate following me the year I was teaching myself the CSS stuff, you can see how quick it turns it but also how quick I get it upright. Plan is always flat on its side or upright Check out his 2011 mallory vid, when I had 'got it' and you'll notice how I use the quick steer to go in later and faster... (Apolgies to everyone else if thos is boring!)
All the gear and no idea you Know me then thats what the wife tells me aswell Thats a great watch you do turn quickly and i suppose after the initial turn you then dont have much weight on the bars ...... just lock in the outside leg and knee and round you go quickly smoothly and fast
Btw I was describing me My bars are for steering not carrying weight. Notice on my gixer (my 848 was similar) it makes me hold my weight a bit more than the monster in that vid
