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What Didn't The Scottish Like......

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by andyb, Sep 20, 2014.

  1. Jock mp's Blair,Brown, Darling,Cameron (grandson of the Earl of Fife) along with 50 others voting on English matters.The English MP's have no say in the most important matters affecting Scotland.Is this right?
    Cameron has promised Scotland carte blanche on taxation which would be OK we're it not for the 17 billion pound subsidy already being given to Scotland.
    We call ourselves The United Kingdom, which is fine but Wales Northern Ireland and England are not treated with quite the degree of attention given to Scotland.
    In my experience Scots are not committed to the idea of Great Britain.their own culture is the be all and end all. Saltires, kilts and bagpipes.It would have been more sensible to give Scotland the independence it craves rather than her people having to groan under the English yoke!
    Let us have another referendum soon on Scottish independence because the rift in the Union is not going to heal.the sooner Scotland goes it alone the better for all concerned.
     
  2. What the Scottish (sic) didn't like was risk. It's an age old psychological phenomenon.

    You are called into your boss's office and he hands you an envelope and says: "This is your bonus and it's 30% of your salary, but to pay for it, we've had to reduce the salary of some people by 10%. You might be one of those, so instead of getting a bonus, you might find instead that your salary has gone down by 10%. I really don't know what is in the envelope, but you don't have to accept it, you can stay as you are with your present salary, but in that case of course, you won't have a bonus".

    Most people won't accept the envelope. People feel far more strongly about losing a bit than winning a bit. Getting a 10% bonus might make you feel quite pleased for a short while. Getting a 10% pay reduction will make you furious and you'll probably never get over it.

    The Scots looked at independence and could see there was risk attached. They may have had more to gain than to lose, but there was no guarantee. As the EU thing and the currency thing hadn't been worked out sufficiently (amazing, really that it hadn't) there was obviously quite a lot of perceived risk. You also suspect that people might have wondered whom they were entrusting their future to when their leaders hadn't even got these rather important things worked out in all the time they had had.
     
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  4. It occurs to me that if Scotland is dead set on joining the EU as an independent nation it would be to your advantage if the UK as a whole, including Scotland, withdrew before secession. With the UK outside the EU there would be no possible reason to refuse entry to a newly independent Scotland.
    And Spain, well yes, their track record on dealing with constitutional matters speaks for itself.
     
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