iv already received my 8x6, iv removed the old plate but i havnt fitted the new plate yet, il put before and after pics up soon.
except when you are moaning about the feds doing cock all for the stolen bike………….and then it pings a camera to see where it was and who was on it and where they were going……..and what van it gets into and where that goes and who that relates to…. call me cynical...
There was a website I used a while ago (can not find it now). It had a plate "Designer" like most. However it allowed you to specify how many lines of text, size and font of text, spacing between letters, any badges, custom texts, logos and water marks plus how much border to be left around text. What that meant is plate could be as small as possible, completly custom size, still preserving original font size. I think I will order two new one's M620 Mongrel
But but but other countries also have ANPR systems of their own and smaller plates ..... Call me cynical
this is a before and after picture of my new number plate. its not a huge difference but its an 30/35mm shorter
Well, id agree if that was the case but Ive never heard in all the years a stolen bike being recovered cos it went through a camera - in start contrast a month ago my ex KTM660 and 2 trials bikes were knicked from my mates garage - he even found out where they went to....absolutely nothing from the plod and just to rub salt in they phoned him back 10 days later and closed the case.... Near where I live they bumped the speed limit down from 40 to 30 didn't change any signage and then strangely a police camera van appeared literally every other day for the last 3 weeks or so....you do the math! I think it would be better to get a ticket for a small number plate and no points than a fine and points!
I know it's not the right view. But I too think this and would rather pay a fine than have points. In the years I've been riding. I've only been caught once and I managed to get on the speed course so still have a clean license. But, the main reason is aesthetics. I own a Ducati, the bike is built for beauty in my eyes. And a dinner plate sized plate is just not pretty. It that I'd ever break the speed limit...
I heartily agree on the aesthetics arguement but would point out that plod down here in South Wales have a right problem with non standard plates. On the upside they also have a significant change in attitude once they see that an otherwise distinctly non standard bike is still wearing the yellow air-brake. I've had two near-ban experiences in the last three years, one on my much-missed 748SPS and one on the old SS. One turned into a 3 point fixed penalty (from a potential Dangerous Driving) and the other into a 6 point speeding fine from a compulsory speeding ban ..... all down to plod doing the (sort of) right thing with his discretion. 'Course they shouldn't have pulled me in the first place but you have to take a positive attitude sometimes, eh? But in both cases I'm sure a non-standard plate would have pushed 'em the other way. And it's not like even a very small plate is going to confuse any modern camera. For that you need to obscure a small portion of one letter or digit, using chain lube and dirt or perhaps a stray bungy cord. They hate that as well ...... I lost count of the pulls I got on my work bikes and eventually gave it up after actually getting a ticket from a motorway plod on the M5 in the midlands. Wankers.
Ive gotta say I tend to use my bikes less and less...(ironically ive been on the hyper for the last 2 weeks to work as the weather has been quite mild) - id rather take the fine for a small plate than having a big plate - hitting a speed trap that you don't know about and then getting the fine and 3 points to boot....
I'm afraid to say that the only thing protecting you from a rear plate reading speed trap is an obscured plate. Any camera based system will be able to read the tiniest plate. And if it's not a fully automated system you'll probably end up with a fine for the plate as well as the speed. Luckilly for us most van based roadside camera systems are set up to read front plates of oncoming vehicles. Some of the vans here in Wales have a fish-eye type lens mounted on the side of the van and another camera pointed out of the back so they have a continuous chain of evidence to link the high velocity but anonymous bike front view to the number plate heading away from them at a more sedate speed. But the guy who got me this last spring was very retro ..... equiped with a plain blue Volvo S60 and an old fashion "Stalker" radar gun. Parked in a lay-bye up on Storey Arms he had a lovely view of a nice straight(ish) bit of tarmac and then had the stretch past the mountain centre to slow his target down for a relaxed pursuit before ruining his day. Nice of him to knock off quite a few mphs to bring it down to a discretionary ban rather than an automatic one, though.
well, mines a little bit angled and tucked right up behind the pipes so from an elevated position (ie a mounted speed camera, on a pole) it cant be seen....but yes, I see where youre coming from (pardon the pun)
I struggle to think how a fine could succeed (assuming they are still doing below 40). I would have taken it to court. Assuming it's a built up area then it's 30 unless indicated. So if its indicating 40 , 40 it is. Curious as to how they "bumped the speed limit down" if its not indicated with a change signage (add or removal).
I probably wasn't clear....the signage did change eventually....its now signed but wasn't immediately...
Ah ok I still don't get how they think its changed before any signage was. Nothing has changed up until the point the road signs do? Or am I thinking too laterally :biggrin:
Well, the point im making is that the speed limit changes signage or not and then hey presto a van turns up and the money making machine starts...ironically there was a news report last night that theyre switching all the speed cameras back on next year...in our area at least.... Im all up for speed cameras but only where theyre needed.
Here in NZ that would be illegal, you obey the indicated speed limit, so, whatever the signs say, not what some bureaucrat thinks it should be.
you see thats where your moan oct its credibility ………….how can they enforce something that isn't signed yet……DOH!
Correct me if I'm missing something here - but the speed limit on any given road is indicated, and therefore set, by the signs. How can you be prosecuted for not obeying a speed limit that isn't indicated by a sign ?
