I'm in a similar position. I've got the 2013 Evo Corse and I don't feel the need to change it for the 899. I'm lucky in that I've got a Daytona track bike and a Speed Triple too so I'm rather spoilt for choice but they are all so very different. I enjoy the 848 but don't want to track it just in case (I have done but it was too stressful without track insurance) and the S3 is a better bike on the road unless you're fully committed to a focussed ride. I find the 848 demands a lot more of me to have fun but if I was touring with some spirited riding as well I'd take the 848 every time. They Daytona is just brilliant fun on track and ultimately it has an element of disposability about it if it goes down...not like the 848! If I did sell it I'd move away from a sports bikes I think....the Hypermotard SP appeal but I'm not blessed with long legs so physically it might be a bit of a challenge! To be fair I've toyed with the idea of just selling it and living with the other 2.
Checking over the Daytona R a while back, it has all the trick bits of the Corse, plus Ohlins forks (no TC though?). But I don't see 2nd hand prices being that much different, about 8-9K which is the same for a Corse. There was an article in one of the mags where Michael Rutter got it round a track faster than a 1000 cc bike (gsxr?) IIRC. I track my Corse and don't worry about crashing it, life's too short and it belongs on the track. But what's this I hear about a possible 899 replacement or is it just a small upgrade? Would love them to come out with a smaller capacity trellis frame 'classic' superbike... which will never happen.
Yes, used prices are decent on 675r's because the spec is fantastic, and it does not in anyway need traction control. Tbh I don't think the 848 Evo corse 'needs it' either. I did think the 675 was a little more disposable yes. The 848 I would have really worried about on track. Yes, there is some update coming to the 899, they stopped taking orders in July and have been selling only dealer stock since. Most think it is a body update to match the 1299 and maybe a slight increase to 955cc, rumours of an s model are nonsense I think
I've just bought the d 675r after test tiding one last week end. I've always had litre bikes but I was convinced to try one. I went along with the idea let's get this over with and take the piss after. Oh no, the plan went wrong and I've ordered a brand new D675R. What a bloody bike. I haven't been as excited since I first rode me 250gt as a kid.
Daytona 675 are awesome bikes, so capable and easy to ride it's almost ridiculous. You dont need the R version either or even the new bikes. The early standard bikes can be bought for £4-5000 and they are near enough just as capable. I'd definately prefer a Ducati 899 but they would be double the price so it's a no brainer if it's just for a track/fast road bike and didn't need to be the more glamorous Red brand. Couple of mates of similar skill level were matching me no problem on my 1199s at Cadwell on their Daytona 675's. I out-drag and out-brake them on the straights and they reel me back in on the corners. I took Miss Pineapples 2006 Daytona out at Almeria last week and apart from the long main straight I'm pretty sure I was just as quick as on my 1199s. I've been thinking about getting one to make learning to race a bit more progressive but we dont have much space )or money) for more bikes. Here's me following Geoff on his 675:
Always going to learn faster on something less powerful for sure. I used to race, cars mind, but I always found lapping new circuits in a slower tin box was better than jumping straight in to something with pace.
I have to disagree slightly, no one 'needs' the R, the basic package is capable but I often here people say that the R is a worse road bike or not noticeably different and having owned both and speaking with friends that have, we all disagree. I did the track day on standard road settings, and felt the bike was a little 'soft' so dialled in the track settings from the manual (took all of 2 mins) and it was incredible! I never had that range of adjustment available from the standard suspension.
Yeah, completely agree. That said I also did the same thing competing in cars (drifting mostly) as I couldn't afford the more powerful cars so I'm kind of happy to be able to do the high spec option with the motorbikes!
OK you've got me convinced Going to start looking at an older 675. 4-5k sounds good but feeling the difference a good suspension setup makes on the 848 I would want at least the same level of adjustment on a 675 as a minimum, even if non-ohlins kit. I assume they have preload, comp/rebound front and rear?
I bought mine for £2600. Have added Maxton internals on the forks, slipper clutch, HM quickshifter, spare wheels and a few other bits and bobs. Nows the right time to be looking for something to fettle over the winter ready for next year Its easy to change internals on forks and pop in a new shock. Nitron etc seem to be good value and should give you as much as an Ohlins but less gold. Ive got SBS Carbon pads in the standard brakes and they are brilliant track pads...need a few corners to get heat into them then you're off. I service mine every 4 track days and I'd budget for a billet oil cooler as track riding can cause the oil to cavitate and blow the engine in some cases. Other than that they're pretty bullet proof.
Oh bloody hell, sorry mate they've sold it since I last looked it would seem. There's a number on ebay though !
Oh yes, now you're talking, like that Good point about being the right time to buy. I've got a Vstrom to get rid of though. Saw a Nitron ad in current issue of PB, shock looked great & very nice price. Brittish too. I noticed my pads in the 848 tended to fade on track after a bit, but I could out brake most bikes. Doing oil and filter this week and was thinking of a pad change too. Are carbon pads suitable for the road or is it not a good idea, sounds like they might not get enough heat in them?
Maybe try a fluid with a higher boiling temp, pretty cheap way of possibly resolving your troubles...
No Id not put them on a road bike. You'll get braking the first time you use them but its not great. It takes 3/4 good strong brakes to get heat into them before Id trust them in an emergency.....if you're riding on the road with them they'll loose heat between braking and be back square 1
