Oh yes, I've been riding my 4th GSA for the last 3 years on our annual touring holiday constantly listening to my mate extelling the virtues of his beloved Multistrada. After riding just about everything else on 2 wheels I'm now extremely pleased with my new DVT.
Possibly: the thing that would put me off in principle is Ducati's lack of support for the poor finish quality of the early 1200s (prior to the Audi takeover, Ducati UK used to be very good). I'd consider another if I could be convinced that they were now better finished. In practice though, I'm so far unconvinced by my test ride on a DVT: engine feels very limp compared to the original and I'd much rather have semi-active Öhlins than Skyhook. One option I'm considering is stripping down my '10 and having it repainted to an acceptable standard. In twenty+ years of Ducati ownership over 30 years elapsed, my 2010 Multistrada has been the worst finished of the lot - my 50k mile 02 ST4s has stood up far better and my 04 749R looks like it came out of the factory yesterday,
I have to say, YES! My 13 plate bike has a couple of niggles but the local dealer seem good and the bike is a hoot to ride, get it in Sport on a nice road and it's like a big daft Labrador in that it just wants to play and make you smile. When it goes for it's service and MOT I might have to get a go on the DVT.
I think my dash says CJS Racing when I turn it on. Had a dyno sheet in with the documents I got with the bike showing 150 horsies at the back wheel......
Yes. On my second now. First was a 1200S-Touring with skyhook. Had lots of silly probs but all sorted, thank you Ducati UK. Second is the DVT which is ace. Would I buy a third, would I need to with the DVT Oh I tried the BMW XR didn't like, not as engaging for me as the multi and dealer never called back......
Yes and Yes - I'm on my 3rd Multistrada 1200: 2010 S model (16k miles), 2013 Skyhook (15k miles) and a 2015 DVT S model (5k miles so far. I do at least two European tours a year and the only problem I've had on the road was a flat battery (left the red switch down on the 2010 bike).
'Fraid not. Great bike when it was working. PITA when it wasn't, which was a lot of the time. Not to mention the money I lost on it...
Pete1950: I liked my 2011 MTS enough to buy a 2015 DVT when they came out. They are both great, although very different bikes. OK then. The 2010-14 MTS and the 2015-16 MTS are entirely different bikes. It was a bit naughty of Ducati to use the same model numbering for both, since they only vaguely resemble each other and have few parts in common. For a start, all the bodywork is totally different including the seat and the panniers. Both the main frame and the rear subframe are totally different. The electronics are totally different including the menu system, the dashboard, the lights, and the control switches, and engine management comes from a different supplier entirely. Virtually all the minor components are different, and located in other places on the bike. The cylinder heads are totally new and incorporate a type of variable valve timing system unprecedented in a bike let alone a desmo. Almost the only parts even vaguely similar between the old and new models are the bottom end of the engine and the rear hub. The feel of the bikes on the road is also very different. My 2011 MTS engine has a rather sharp, hard, sporty feel to it - not quite a superbike but halfway there. My DVT has a soft, tractable, user-friendly feel at lower revs, more like a tourer, but then at higher revs and big throttle openings it lifts up its skirts and displays its potential. Just as sporty at the top end, but more usable lower down. Chameleon. The Ohlins suspension on the 2011 is plush and compliant, absorbing bumps with great aplomb but diving too much under braking. The Skyhook on the DVT is less accommodating over the bumps, but resists diving far better; it is miraculous how it adjusts itself to suit to road you are on and the corner you are taking. One becomes spoiled by the improvements in the DVT - luxuries soon become indispensable necessities. Then stepping back on the pre-DVT, one gets to love the sportier feel all over again. Neither bike has ever let me down in 40K miles including several continental tours. I don't really want to part with either of them. Unless somebody makes me an offer I can't refuse, of course.
Yes and I did (but I wanted for the 2016 model). I tried all those bikes you mentioned. The GS was a tractor which I hated after the fun of the MTS. The XR was great fun and the quick shifter made for some great overtakes but it's ugly and did vibrate a lot at cruising speed (this can apparently be fixed with heavier bar ends). I also tried the KTM super adventure. in the end I went with the DVT sport with touring seats that fixed the riding position for me. I love the bike, big improvement on my 2010 MTS and the wife finds it great on the back as well.
I think I would have to say yes I would, because even with the myriad of well known issues that the 2010-12 model had and I owned a really low mileage 2010 MTS Touring, lavishing, as virtually all of us Ducati nuts do, loads of time, attention, not to mention money on the bike, even with the numerous warranty returns, I really liked the bike. Traded the 2010 plate in for a brand new 2014 Pikes Peak in March 2015, just before the DVT came out, a very deliberate decision as I didn't want to be a 'test-mule' owner, based on the well trodden warranty/repair territory when the 1st Mutli's were introduced to the bike owning fraternity and for me the bike has only got better. Like others on this forum, I am and remain unsure about Skyhook, much preferring the Ohlins feel and quality and this time around the build quality of my 2015 plate bike, is pretty decent to date, but the bike is ACF50'd annually, is really well looked after on almost every front and I really love riding it. So I'm in it for the long Ducati MTS haul, but I'm absolutely NOT interested in a DVT yet, I'll wait until around 2017/18 when they've got the bike well and truly sorted....:Nailbiting:
Ok, so I know i've said before that I hate my unreliable pos multi, but yesterday was a lovely day and I went for a ride... I caned it, pushed it harder than I ever have and even had a bit of 2 wheel drift on a corner over the crest of a hill (and I'm no Sam Lowes). Got back and the tyres were starting to look like I'd been on a track. Got off it with a massive grin and a thought running through my head - "I'll spend whatever it takes to keep this thing running, it's that amazing!". Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I rode mine, DVT yesterday first time for maybe a month, (been using the Monster) and I have to say I jumped on it and thought crap this feels so weird, huge compared to my little 821, but with in minutes I then thought it is so light, and flickable. I love the bike with the termi, the sound, the overtake where you open her a little to move, it surges forward, and then twist it again it just then lurches again forward, it makes me smile loads, put it into my set up endure mode (Sky Hook) all stiffens up, and like riding a different bike again. It is just a great all round bike now for everyone even short people like me
Interesting question I have a 1200S Sport that I bought new in March 2012. Would I buy that again? Yes definitely Before buying it I test rode a variety of other bikes and nothing else came close, I knew within a few miles which one would end up in my garage. In 15,000 miles I’ve had a few niggles, blown fork seal and fuel sender replaced under warranty, the replacement sender lasted even less time than the original and has been showing permanently empty for the last couple of thousand miles. I’m waiting to see if Ducati will do a goodwill replacement. Oh and the wheels are soft as 5h1t, I’ve had to have two straightened after hitting potholes which seems plain daft on a bike with off road pretensions. A broken gearchange return spring was a pain in the arse but didn’t strand me. As for the dodgy finish some complain about I know mine is a bit cosseted but the MOT tester said he was going to give me an advisory for a speck of dirt on the rear hugger! Stonesie put it so eloquently when he said stick it in Sport mode and it’s like a big daft Labrador. First time I took it to Europe I was amazed how comfortable it is getting there but when I got to the mountains the only thing quicker was some nutter on a Supermoto backing into corners down a hairpin infested Swiss pass. It’s more or less a big comfy sports bike. Would I buy a DVT? Never say never but I don’t think so. Partly because of the horror stories I see on here far too regularly but also although I’ve not actually ridden one something about it just doesn’t appeal so much, everything I’ve read suggests it is quite a lot more sanitised and has lost the raw edge that I still enjoy with my single spark. I would probably look at a test ride on the BMW S1000XR that sounds like it retains the sportiness that I still crave even though I’m approaching a birthday with a 6 and a 0 in it. Mind you it has a face only its mother could love, is it just me or do all those Beemers with different shaped headlights look like they’ve had a stroke? A mate has the naked S1000R and loves it, he even claims it has completely re-vitalised his appetite for riding. Or the KTM Super Duke GT, but my local dealer that sells Ducati and KTM admitted to me privately a while ago that the 1290 Adventure was even more troublesome than the pre DVT Multistrada’s.
@pl2112 I would not dismiss the DVT I do think in its original version you are right regarding performance, but since a a Ducati up date map, or in my case fitting of a termi, with a new map, I think it is certainly equal to the 2013 1200 S I had, better after 5/6k, even with some weird dyno printouts the difference with and with out the Termi is quite big in performance wise. I know there has been people with some issues, but they have sold a lot of the DVT's, and it is a complete revamp. I think it is important to use Higher octane fuel and the long term niggles like fuel senders and exhaust valves will be far less of an issue. I would like to try a KTM Duke GT as on paper it looks a real contender.
@pl2112 Give the S1000XR a test it is great fun, fast, very sharp handing, the quick shifter is a hoot, but the IL4 just isn't relaxing. Afterwards I got back on my April 2012 1200S Touring and thought this is much nicer, apart from the crappy brakes, which really do need to be looked at.
Yes I would in theory.. Problem is....I've got my 2012 S Touring ( single spark, pre- skyhook) thoroughly sorted with Leo Vince decat and can, CJS tune, Ohlins SCU and other sensible bits and pieces. It's the best bike I've ever owned by a long way and unfortunately it makes the DVT feel a bit gutless. So although I'd buy another, and probably a DVT, I'm waiting for you new model test pilots to sort out the niggles and someone to report back on the results of having a CJS tune.