Of course you mock, so did i, until i actually saw it done. what do uou think they wash them out with? you say condensation, so where EXACTLY do you think the water comes from? cold metal supports condensation, it does NOT condensate. the internet is a very good tool, i suggest you have a look at it and learn what happens in the real world.
What are these transport tanks made from? Plastic? Unobtanuim? Fairy dust? Im guessing they must have some pretty big holes in them by now!
I suggest you stop doing huge amounts of mind-altering drugs & get a grip. Never for one second did I suggest that the metal is producing water itself by sweating it out, shedding a few tears or even having a pee? I'm not sad enough to spend my time researching "condensation, the method, ways & means" online either. It happens, & is a LOT more believable than your "sea water used to wash out fuel tanks" blah. :wink:
A few lads I know have used por 15 on their trials bike fuel tanks and the ethanol in the petrol has caused the coating to peel away, looks like a bad skin complaint. This has happened on fibreglass and ally tanks, after about a year to 18 months. The fibreglass tank on my trials bike went the same, I think the fuel started to pull the resin out the fibreglass and that glued the slide into the carb. A mate of a mate builds choppers and he got some stuff from America. We did my tank with that, can`t remember what it was called but its been in about 2 years now and, touch wood, seems ok. Hope I`m wrong in this case, just keep an eye on it.
So exactly "what" happens, where does this water come from in your world? just because you close your mind to something that does not mean it dont happen. believe what you want to believe, i know i am right on this one.
Crude oil is transported on ships to the refinery then refined into various things including fuel then transported by road to the fuel stations no fuel company imports fuel it all comes in as crude oil
Its condensation - Winter window panes, two extremes of temperatures will cause water in the air to condensate. Same in your tank. SIMPLES. A brim-full tank will be able to cause less condensation as less air = less water content. I removed both my bikes tanks last Winter, drained them completely and stored them in boxes in the spare room. All good. CONDENSATION IS REAL. Deal with it.
Are you quite sure on that, are you sure that no fuel is landed by ships at immingham docks? also are you quite sure that the fuel is transported by road? not trick questions, but, what do they use the fuel delivery pipeline for that stretches across the country?
Mmmm, this does seem to be going on, how can i deal with your condensation? you talk about a brim fuel tank? do you really think there is no water delivered into your brim tank when you fill up? so exactly where does this water come from (and don't say condensation), it is in the fuel, as anyone who is a pilot or has anything to do with aircraft, they will tell you exactly the same. getting angry at me does not help you understand it!
Im a PPL holder (first solo 2002). Yes, you do check your fuel tanks for water from a drain specifically designed for the purpose, then look for the tell tale meniscus, and the border between the blue avgas and the clear water, but it comes from condensation... not the fuel. When you brim the tank, no condensation can get in, but as you use up all the fuel, air (relatively warm, which is capable of supporting water vapour, which is always present, unless you dry the air with a dessicator) displaces the fuel in the tank, you leave it while a temperature change occurrs, and you get condensation, which ends up in the bottom of the tank, or if there is a lot of it, then it gets slurped up by the fuel pump/carbs. Ethanol which has to be in Mogas pump fuel by law these days, is hygroscopic, just like brake fluid, and water vapour is similarly absorbed into the ethanol, till it gets saturated at that temperature, the temp then drops, and out drops some of the water. Ethanol is horrible stuff which is a solvent for lots of GRP and similar products, so if you have a GRP tank, its only a matter of time before it goes all soggy.
Indeed! Im thinking if petrol tanker drivers have a rough job re: hazards, becoming very many small parts etc then fk being on one of these floating petrol tankers! I doubt they exist TBH - my money is that all bulk is crude oil as per duc904red? One thing I did try before the POR15 was adding meths into the petrol - the pure alcohol will mix the water into the fuel, meaning instead of pooling at the bottom of the tank it gets burnt with the petrol in the engine? Not recommended for repeat doses as the alcohol will dry the rubber fuel hoses out - did give the bike a kick in the ass tho! Im guessing aircraft will see their fair share of altitude & temperate change too, so condensation is bound to happen.
TRUCE: Dont use alchohol as you risk melting the plastic parts on the pump, a really good product to use is wynns DRY FUEL, its a mixture of alchohol and methanol and a touch of magic, half a tub in a bike tank gets the water to mix with the fuel so it can go through the fuel system and is worth putting in before any lay up of the bike. WAR: i really hate to piss on your cornflakes guys but, type "Crude tanker" in to google and you will get descriptives for tankers carrying oil. Type "product tanker" and you will get descriptives for petrochemical tankers, sorry guys 1-0. a quote from wiki, An oil tanker, also known as a petroleum tanker, is a merchant ship designed for the bulk transport of oil. There are two basic types of oil tankers: the crude tanker and the product tanker.[SUP][3][/SUP] Crude tankers move large quantities of unrefined crude oil from its point of extraction to refineries.[SUP][3][/SUP] Product tankers, generally much smaller, are designed to move petrochemicals from refineries to points near consuming markets. hence my quote to immingam and the pipeline.
(Good grief) I've never known someone be so defensive about a freakin' oil tanker. I COULD have googled "oil tankers" myself, but really couldnt be arsed, TBH? They hold the same interest level to me as bee's, or Boeing 757's - possibly less. I have no doubt that modern petrol contains MUCH nasty shit, most of it chemically added by the oil companys in the process to make petrol a little more greener than before - & ultimately a little bit more pisswater than petrol of Yore. I am also under no doubt that they do not slurp all of the petrol out of the tanker - leaving a gloop of nastiness at the bottom, which should include most of the water. Ethanol? Ewww... Nobody needs to be told what this will do to a modern tank - implosions & expanding tank stories abound? That the active ingredient in paint-stripper has been banned, meaning it now has the paint-bubbling properties of Toilet Duck? Your tap-water? You are not the first. Been through MILLIONS of peoples bladders before! Explains the slightly salty taste. That chickens are planted in rows in fields by the farmer - a machine will drill holes & carefully plant the chicken seed or "egg", where it will sprout upwards through the soil, giving chickens their wheat-stalk-like legs. Over time the chickens feet will form, and they will run around until they are fat enough to be eaten. And that is why chickens can't fly! Because they are a cereal crop.
Did you know that most of the chicken you buy contains water - although I am not sure if it is sea water or not. Cheers Gaz.
Thanks to the previous owner of my 92 851 the inside of the tank is mint (20 years old) because every winter he drained it of water and sprayed good old wd40 inside. Don't get me started on water seperation in solvents and corrosion problems... reminds me of my work!! even galv..... nope it's my day off!!!
